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<blockquote data-quote="Mugarolla" data-source="post: 2578872" data-attributes="member: 8481"><p>And they usually do. Understand, some of these cases are open and shut. The union will never win it unless the company gets something in return.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have. You must not get around very much.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I know about 804. That is why I said with a few exceptions. I just gave the basic idea of what the inside of a State Panel grievance hearing may look like for the majority of us.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Usually at dinner the night before. I will call you a liar if you do not agree that they review the cases the night before. And yes, some are decided the night before. But like I said, the majority of these cases are open and shut. Seniority violation, 9.5 grievance, avoidable accident, signing customers names, etc, and the panel members usually have all the facts while making their decision the night before.</p><p></p><p>Most times, what is presented during the panel makes no difference, or is nothing new, to the panel members. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No I wasn't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. But they know they cannot win every case, so they may trade a few minor ones to win an important one. Granted, the cases they trade rarely include a discharge.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Dinner, with maybe a few drinks....</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are not saying that you are one of those incapable ones, are you?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mugarolla, post: 2578872, member: 8481"] And they usually do. Understand, some of these cases are open and shut. The union will never win it unless the company gets something in return. I have. You must not get around very much. I know about 804. That is why I said with a few exceptions. I just gave the basic idea of what the inside of a State Panel grievance hearing may look like for the majority of us. Usually at dinner the night before. I will call you a liar if you do not agree that they review the cases the night before. And yes, some are decided the night before. But like I said, the majority of these cases are open and shut. Seniority violation, 9.5 grievance, avoidable accident, signing customers names, etc, and the panel members usually have all the facts while making their decision the night before. Most times, what is presented during the panel makes no difference, or is nothing new, to the panel members. No I wasn't. No. But they know they cannot win every case, so they may trade a few minor ones to win an important one. Granted, the cases they trade rarely include a discharge. Dinner, with maybe a few drinks.... You are not saying that you are one of those incapable ones, are you? [/QUOTE]
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