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<blockquote data-quote="Whither" data-source="post: 4120969" data-attributes="member: 76643"><p>My two cents: don't walk away from the 'opportunity', run. Had a handful of customers inquire re: becoming a DSP during my Amazon deliveries and said the same. </p><p></p><p>Here's the thing. You will be Amazon's bee-atch. But. If you don't mind boot-licking for a particularly ruthless company and pocketing healthy parts of the incentives your drivers earn for you, then it might be a good fit.</p><p></p><p>As [USER=77254]@amazondriverdude[/USER] said, Amazon controls the training. (Honestly: imo the training at UPS isn't much, if any, better ha. But a job at UPS has more gravity.) They also control who gets hired and fired. As a contractor, you have little to no say. About every other stand-up meeting mgmt reminded us that Amazon could 'off-board' any driver for any reason, whenever it pleased them. Then again, I didn't blanch at cursing at the blue-vested station manager for being a royal <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> to me one day and didn't even get a slap on the wrist. Judgment, I guess, and he must've been a decent-enough guy. Or maybe a-holes respect other a-holes, ha. </p><p></p><p>Dispatchers are basically unnecessary for competent drivers.</p><p></p><p>As for turnover: what can be expected? In my cheap midwestern cow-town I'd consider Amazon driving a borderline job; on the coasts or in other pricey metros its poverty wages for far more grief. Hell, in those places, driving a UPS package car is a borderline job. No way you'd support a family on one income without pinching every last penny. And that's no way to live. If the world is going to hell in a hand basket at least we shouldn't have to pretend to care about jobs that pay nothing, treat us as disposable stock. At bottom scale I already make as much in 35 hours at UPS as I did in 50 at Amazon. </p><p></p><p>My extra two cents: if you want to make good money in logistics and not lose dignity, just take the plunge and become a UPS driver in a cow-town, ha. Honestly, even with Amazon, I'd rather be a driver than a DSP-owner. They only want warm bodies. I was fairly decent at my job, and liked it (if not the economic arrangement) ... as a DSP-owner you'll be herding cats. Amazon won't care too much as long as you can keep finding strays that perform well enough to keep the copmany average afloat. But good luck. People aren't used to the strain of true blue collar jobs. Meanwhile Amazon is doing everything the cheap way, cutting all the corners, so there's not much reason to stick around when you can still find ways to do less work for about the same wage ... or else do more work for a better wage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whither, post: 4120969, member: 76643"] My two cents: don't walk away from the 'opportunity', run. Had a handful of customers inquire re: becoming a DSP during my Amazon deliveries and said the same. Here's the thing. You will be Amazon's bee-atch. But. If you don't mind boot-licking for a particularly ruthless company and pocketing healthy parts of the incentives your drivers earn for you, then it might be a good fit. As [USER=77254]@amazondriverdude[/USER] said, Amazon controls the training. (Honestly: imo the training at UPS isn't much, if any, better ha. But a job at UPS has more gravity.) They also control who gets hired and fired. As a contractor, you have little to no say. About every other stand-up meeting mgmt reminded us that Amazon could 'off-board' any driver for any reason, whenever it pleased them. Then again, I didn't blanch at cursing at the blue-vested station manager for being a royal :censored: to me one day and didn't even get a slap on the wrist. Judgment, I guess, and he must've been a decent-enough guy. Or maybe a-holes respect other a-holes, ha. Dispatchers are basically unnecessary for competent drivers. As for turnover: what can be expected? In my cheap midwestern cow-town I'd consider Amazon driving a borderline job; on the coasts or in other pricey metros its poverty wages for far more grief. Hell, in those places, driving a UPS package car is a borderline job. No way you'd support a family on one income without pinching every last penny. And that's no way to live. If the world is going to hell in a hand basket at least we shouldn't have to pretend to care about jobs that pay nothing, treat us as disposable stock. At bottom scale I already make as much in 35 hours at UPS as I did in 50 at Amazon. My extra two cents: if you want to make good money in logistics and not lose dignity, just take the plunge and become a UPS driver in a cow-town, ha. Honestly, even with Amazon, I'd rather be a driver than a DSP-owner. They only want warm bodies. I was fairly decent at my job, and liked it (if not the economic arrangement) ... as a DSP-owner you'll be herding cats. Amazon won't care too much as long as you can keep finding strays that perform well enough to keep the copmany average afloat. But good luck. People aren't used to the strain of true blue collar jobs. Meanwhile Amazon is doing everything the cheap way, cutting all the corners, so there's not much reason to stick around when you can still find ways to do less work for about the same wage ... or else do more work for a better wage. [/QUOTE]
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