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<blockquote data-quote="Mugarolla" data-source="post: 4297370" data-attributes="member: 8481"><p>I am going to try one more time. I know this is a hard concept to grasp for some people. Maybe it would help if I used a bigger font, or how about capital letters. Would that help you understand?</p><p></p><p>I'll tell you what, I'll just type a little bit slower so maybe you can follow along.</p><p></p><p>You ready? Here we go. I'm typing real slow.</p><p></p><p>If you did not resign, the labor manager was going to fire you for sexual harassment. This means you would no longer be on the schedule and your hours would be reduced down to zero. But, you would still remain a UPS employee until the grievance process was concluded.</p><p></p><p>The labor manager told you he would reduce your hours to zero and take you off the schedule. This is what happens when an employee is fired.</p><p></p><p>He was not going to allow you to continue working, and just reduce your hours from say, 6 hours a day down to 4. That's not what he meant.</p><p></p><p>He was going to fire you, take you off the schedule, and reduce your hours to zero. I don't care what you thought he meant. This is exactly what he was going to do, and what he told you would happen.</p><p></p><p>You still with me?</p><p></p><p>This is the route that you should have taken, instead of resigning.</p><p></p><p>Now, if you had the wisdom to file a grievance after being fired, one of three things would happen during the grievance process.</p><p></p><p></p><p>1. Your grievance would be deadlocked. </p><p></p><p>This means that you would remain discharged, continue to not be put on the schedule, continue to receive 0 hours of work, but, still remain a UPS employee, at least until the next step of the grievance process.</p><p></p><p>2. Your discharge would be upheld. </p><p></p><p>Meaning you are still discharged, you will never be put on the schedule, you will never get more than 0 hours of work and you are no longer a UPS employee. Pack your bags, get out and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.</p><p></p><p>3. Your discharge would be overturned. </p><p></p><p>This would mean that you are no longer discharged, you will be put back on the schedule, you would start receiving at least your 3 and 1/2 hour guarantee of work, and you will still remain a UPS employee. </p><p></p><p>This is not a hard concept to understand. </p><p></p><p>Option number 3 is what I think, and most people on this form think, would have been your outcome if you had taken the discharge instead of resigning.</p><p></p><p>I won't quote you again, but you said in two separate posts on this forum that the labor manager told you that you either resign or he would fire you.</p><p></p><p>And if he had to fire you, that would mean you would be taken off the schedule and your hours would be reduced to zero.</p><p></p><p>Any questions?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mugarolla, post: 4297370, member: 8481"] I am going to try one more time. I know this is a hard concept to grasp for some people. Maybe it would help if I used a bigger font, or how about capital letters. Would that help you understand? I'll tell you what, I'll just type a little bit slower so maybe you can follow along. You ready? Here we go. I'm typing real slow. If you did not resign, the labor manager was going to fire you for sexual harassment. This means you would no longer be on the schedule and your hours would be reduced down to zero. But, you would still remain a UPS employee until the grievance process was concluded. The labor manager told you he would reduce your hours to zero and take you off the schedule. This is what happens when an employee is fired. He was not going to allow you to continue working, and just reduce your hours from say, 6 hours a day down to 4. That's not what he meant. He was going to fire you, take you off the schedule, and reduce your hours to zero. I don't care what you thought he meant. This is exactly what he was going to do, and what he told you would happen. You still with me? This is the route that you should have taken, instead of resigning. Now, if you had the wisdom to file a grievance after being fired, one of three things would happen during the grievance process. 1. Your grievance would be deadlocked. This means that you would remain discharged, continue to not be put on the schedule, continue to receive 0 hours of work, but, still remain a UPS employee, at least until the next step of the grievance process. 2. Your discharge would be upheld. Meaning you are still discharged, you will never be put on the schedule, you will never get more than 0 hours of work and you are no longer a UPS employee. Pack your bags, get out and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. 3. Your discharge would be overturned. This would mean that you are no longer discharged, you will be put back on the schedule, you would start receiving at least your 3 and 1/2 hour guarantee of work, and you will still remain a UPS employee. This is not a hard concept to understand. Option number 3 is what I think, and most people on this form think, would have been your outcome if you had taken the discharge instead of resigning. I won't quote you again, but you said in two separate posts on this forum that the labor manager told you that you either resign or he would fire you. And if he had to fire you, that would mean you would be taken off the schedule and your hours would be reduced to zero. Any questions? [/QUOTE]
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