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<blockquote data-quote="Mugarolla" data-source="post: 4297390" data-attributes="member: 8481"><p>OK, I'll play. I'm bored anyway.</p><p></p><p>This may get rather long, but it is directed strictly [USER=79169]@Sadman101[/USER].</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You liked that, did you?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You said he threatened to take your hours down to zero if you didn't resign. What do you think he meant by that? He meant that if you didn't resign, he was going to fire you and take your hours down to zero.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>He never once said he was going to suspend you. But he did say he was going to fire you.</p><p></p><p>So why are you asking about a suspension when he told you he was going to fire you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Should I type slower again?</p><p></p><p>He never said he was going to suspend you, he said he was going to fire you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not only according to me, but also according to your labor manager.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I just did. Let's keep going.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What Counterpoint are you talking about? You said the labor manager said either resign or I will fire you. You said he also said that he would take your hours down to zero. He can't do that contractually, unless he fires you.</p><p></p><p>You're supposed Counterpoint was that the labor manager said he was going to reduce your hours.</p><p></p><p>Yes. If you didn't resign he was going to reduce your hours down to zero by firing you.</p><p></p><p>Not a hard concept to comprehend.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>He said that if you didn't resign, he was going to reduce your hours to zero, by firing you for sexual harassment.</p><p></p><p>Again, he cannot reduce your hours to zero without firing you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just did.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then who am I with?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Look at that, we agree on something.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They were referring to the fact that your firing would not have stuck. Yes, you would have been fired, but most probably would have got your job back.</p><p></p><p>And if you don't believe me, go ask them for yourself what they meant by you would not have been fired.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I ignored nothing.</p><p></p><p>The labor manager did not say he was going to <strong>suspend</strong> you, he said he was going to fire you.</p><p></p><p>You were not <strong>injured</strong>, you were about to be fired.</p><p></p><p>You were about to be fired for sexual harassment. Nothing to do with <strong>constructive</strong> <strong>discharge</strong>.</p><p></p><p>Yes, he did say he was going to <strong>discharge</strong> you. This is the only one relevant. The others are not relevant to your situation</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly. But you said that he told you he was going to reduce your hours to zero because you didn't resign. That is correct. </p><p></p><p>If you didn't resign, he was going to reduce your hours to zero by firing you.</p><p></p><p>Or, BECAUSE you didn't resign, he was going to reduce your hours to zero by firing you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is the same thing. The labor manager cannot reduce your hours to zero unless he fires you.</p><p></p><p>If you didn't resign, he was going to reduce your hours to zero, by firing you, in that order.</p><p></p><p>Or, if you didn't resign, he was going to for you, thus reducing your hours to zero.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not assuming anything. If the labor manager told you he was going to reduce your hours to zero and didn't mention anything about firing you, the shop steward would have said something, because he knows the labor manager cannot do that.</p><p></p><p>The shop steward knew that if you didn't resign the labor manager was going to fire you.</p><p></p><p>And the shop steward most likely believed that you would not get your job back in a grievance hearing.</p><p></p><p>That's why he told you to resign. And yes, he was wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Who is the one with the problem here? I still got my job, do you? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Everything. You just don't get it.</p><p></p><p>Your whole argument is the labor manager supposedly told you he was going to reduce your hours to zero if you didn't resign before he told you he was going to fire you.</p><p></p><p>Before you waste your money on a lawyer, you better ask your union steward, who was there, how he thinks the labor manager can reduce your hours to zero without firing you.</p><p></p><p>I'll tell you what your steward's going to say. He's going to say that he believed that if you didn't resign, the labor manager was going to fire you for sexual harassment.</p><p></p><p>Case closed. I actually don't blame you. I blame your steward..</p><p></p><p>You are welcome to waste your money by lawyering up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mugarolla, post: 4297390, member: 8481"] OK, I'll play. I'm bored anyway. This may get rather long, but it is directed strictly [USER=79169]@Sadman101[/USER]. You liked that, did you? You said he threatened to take your hours down to zero if you didn't resign. What do you think he meant by that? He meant that if you didn't resign, he was going to fire you and take your hours down to zero. He never once said he was going to suspend you. But he did say he was going to fire you. So why are you asking about a suspension when he told you he was going to fire you. Should I type slower again? He never said he was going to suspend you, he said he was going to fire you. Not only according to me, but also according to your labor manager. I just did. Let's keep going. What Counterpoint are you talking about? You said the labor manager said either resign or I will fire you. You said he also said that he would take your hours down to zero. He can't do that contractually, unless he fires you. You're supposed Counterpoint was that the labor manager said he was going to reduce your hours. Yes. If you didn't resign he was going to reduce your hours down to zero by firing you. Not a hard concept to comprehend. He said that if you didn't resign, he was going to reduce your hours to zero, by firing you for sexual harassment. Again, he cannot reduce your hours to zero without firing you. Just did. Then who am I with? Look at that, we agree on something. They were referring to the fact that your firing would not have stuck. Yes, you would have been fired, but most probably would have got your job back. And if you don't believe me, go ask them for yourself what they meant by you would not have been fired. I ignored nothing. The labor manager did not say he was going to [B]suspend[/B] you, he said he was going to fire you. You were not [B]injured[/B], you were about to be fired. You were about to be fired for sexual harassment. Nothing to do with [B]constructive[/B] [B]discharge[/B]. Yes, he did say he was going to [B]discharge[/B] you. This is the only one relevant. The others are not relevant to your situation Exactly. But you said that he told you he was going to reduce your hours to zero because you didn't resign. That is correct. If you didn't resign, he was going to reduce your hours to zero by firing you. Or, BECAUSE you didn't resign, he was going to reduce your hours to zero by firing you. It is the same thing. The labor manager cannot reduce your hours to zero unless he fires you. If you didn't resign, he was going to reduce your hours to zero, by firing you, in that order. Or, if you didn't resign, he was going to for you, thus reducing your hours to zero. I'm not assuming anything. If the labor manager told you he was going to reduce your hours to zero and didn't mention anything about firing you, the shop steward would have said something, because he knows the labor manager cannot do that. The shop steward knew that if you didn't resign the labor manager was going to fire you. And the shop steward most likely believed that you would not get your job back in a grievance hearing. That's why he told you to resign. And yes, he was wrong. Who is the one with the problem here? I still got my job, do you? Everything. You just don't get it. Your whole argument is the labor manager supposedly told you he was going to reduce your hours to zero if you didn't resign before he told you he was going to fire you. Before you waste your money on a lawyer, you better ask your union steward, who was there, how he thinks the labor manager can reduce your hours to zero without firing you. I'll tell you what your steward's going to say. He's going to say that he believed that if you didn't resign, the labor manager was going to fire you for sexual harassment. Case closed. I actually don't blame you. I blame your steward.. You are welcome to waste your money by lawyering up. [/QUOTE]
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