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<blockquote data-quote="Ruralbrownman" data-source="post: 170962" data-attributes="member: 6126"><p>I do wish you luck WestSide. I think your type is a dying breed. When I started working for UPS 23 years ago ALL sups came from the p-t ranks. They were hard working people who started on the part-time , became p-t sups , then drivers , then to friend-t management if they so desired. That however is not the case anymore. Every p-t sup in our building was hired off the street. Maybe , at least on the preload , that is a direct result of the PAS system. I must say our building is not yet on PAS , but from what I have read on different posts you really dont need preload experience to train people anymore. </p><p> </p><p>I believe that is one of the problems with UPS today. We are hiring to many management people with college degrees that do not understand what most jobs in our company entale. UPS was a better company when management people can up the ranks and understood what each job was responsible for and knew how to do those jobs. A center manager at one time had the abililty to actually RUN a center. Now they wait for the phone to ring and do what they are told. At one time dispatch was controlled inside the building , if stops warranted , a route could be added without any questions , now it almost takes any act of god to go against what the plan calls for. Driver sups actually spent time on the street with drivers , not in the building worrying about every piece of paper that comes out of the printer. Most of the time swing drivers , at least in our building, have to go out blind on routes , but are still expected to make performance. It never seems to be good enough.</p><p> </p><p>I hope you can keep your positive attitude over the long haul. All to often we new sups come in and think they came make a difference , only to get frustrated with the pressures of trying meet ever shrinking numbers. Where does it all end? The jobs at UPS do not change that much , yes we add technology , some good and some bad , but for the most part they stay the same. While the diad has saved some time at multi-package stops , it really saves no time in residential. You still have the walk time from truck to the front door in which you sheet , now scan , the package , wait a few seconds to see if the customer is home , leave the package , and while walking back to the truck record your next address. The reload unloads packages out of the cars and loads them in a trailer , but yet they should take less time today then a couple years ago. I hate to sound so negative , but thats what is happening to most of the people who have been with the company a long time. The constant pressure to run MORE stops per hour , run MORE pieces per hours , load MORE pieces per hour , wash MORE trucks per hours , it just wears on people. I really hope you can stay positive , treat your people with the respect you want to be treated with , and don't let the constant pressure put on management wear you down. UPS is going to celebrate 100 years this summer, I can only hope we last another 100 years.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruralbrownman, post: 170962, member: 6126"] I do wish you luck WestSide. I think your type is a dying breed. When I started working for UPS 23 years ago ALL sups came from the p-t ranks. They were hard working people who started on the part-time , became p-t sups , then drivers , then to friend-t management if they so desired. That however is not the case anymore. Every p-t sup in our building was hired off the street. Maybe , at least on the preload , that is a direct result of the PAS system. I must say our building is not yet on PAS , but from what I have read on different posts you really dont need preload experience to train people anymore. I believe that is one of the problems with UPS today. We are hiring to many management people with college degrees that do not understand what most jobs in our company entale. UPS was a better company when management people can up the ranks and understood what each job was responsible for and knew how to do those jobs. A center manager at one time had the abililty to actually RUN a center. Now they wait for the phone to ring and do what they are told. At one time dispatch was controlled inside the building , if stops warranted , a route could be added without any questions , now it almost takes any act of god to go against what the plan calls for. Driver sups actually spent time on the street with drivers , not in the building worrying about every piece of paper that comes out of the printer. Most of the time swing drivers , at least in our building, have to go out blind on routes , but are still expected to make performance. It never seems to be good enough. I hope you can keep your positive attitude over the long haul. All to often we new sups come in and think they came make a difference , only to get frustrated with the pressures of trying meet ever shrinking numbers. Where does it all end? The jobs at UPS do not change that much , yes we add technology , some good and some bad , but for the most part they stay the same. While the diad has saved some time at multi-package stops , it really saves no time in residential. You still have the walk time from truck to the front door in which you sheet , now scan , the package , wait a few seconds to see if the customer is home , leave the package , and while walking back to the truck record your next address. The reload unloads packages out of the cars and loads them in a trailer , but yet they should take less time today then a couple years ago. I hate to sound so negative , but thats what is happening to most of the people who have been with the company a long time. The constant pressure to run MORE stops per hour , run MORE pieces per hours , load MORE pieces per hour , wash MORE trucks per hours , it just wears on people. I really hope you can stay positive , treat your people with the respect you want to be treated with , and don't let the constant pressure put on management wear you down. UPS is going to celebrate 100 years this summer, I can only hope we last another 100 years. [/QUOTE]
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