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<blockquote data-quote="quad decade guy" data-source="post: 5187382" data-attributes="member: 77939">Well....Blame.I&#039;m more interested in prevention.When UPS eliminated handing the keys to guards the timer was set. Matter of time. See, pull-key procedures were implemented here when a guard was killed standing between a set. No person was killed this way since. Covid protocols are involved here. Somehow, the driver retaining the keys(held out window maybe) was acceptable to the company and drivers. Noting the driver could still drive away without any real contact with the guard. Now, situational awareness.....countless scenarios and possibilities...too many to list.While no procedure is 100%......handing the guard keys and communicating face to face(handing of the keys...handing back) allows accounting of what and where and how many.Here, all of these concerns were discussed many, many times in Safety Committee meetings....on record. But the Company and yes, Union wanted nothing to do with changes and protocols......just too expensive and cumbersome. The Union going as far as inserting a union steward as Co-Chair to eliminate ANY rules. No? You bet.Note on unauthorized procedures......(making our own).This could lead to being accused of stealing time. I&#039;d be happy to discuss.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="quad decade guy, post: 5187382, member: 77939"] Well....Blame. I'm more interested in prevention. When UPS eliminated handing the keys to guards the timer was set. Matter of time. See, pull-key procedures were implemented here when a guard was killed standing between a set. No person was killed this way since. Covid protocols are involved here. Somehow, the driver retaining the keys(held out window maybe) was acceptable to the company and drivers. Noting the driver could still drive away without any real contact with the guard. Now, situational awareness.....countless scenarios and possibilities...too many to list. While no procedure is 100%......handing the guard keys and communicating face to face(handing of the keys...handing back) allows accounting of what and where and how many. Here, all of these concerns were discussed many, many times in Safety Committee meetings....on record. But the Company and yes, Union wanted nothing to do with changes and protocols......just too expensive and cumbersome. The Union going as far as inserting a union steward as Co-Chair to eliminate ANY rules. No? You bet. Note on unauthorized procedures......(making our own). This could lead to being accused of stealing time. I'd be happy to discuss. [/QUOTE]

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