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<blockquote data-quote="Brother Joe" data-source="post: 968253" data-attributes="member: 41239"><p>I'm rebutting the red baiting, have you read the thread? The negative conotations associated with anarchism is from the proganda of the right in this country. It is believed because of the political backwardness of the working class in the usa. The chicken or the egg? At some point people have to take personal responsibility for their education though. It may not improve my position in the short term but I'm looking at the long term. I'm looking beyond just wages & benefits. The system needs to be fundamentally changed or were going to have the same battles year after year. The eventual goal is anarcho syndicalism (the workers running the work place) direct democracy. Gandhi wasn't an anarchist. His work caused the end of the colonialistion of India. It was an advance, but he wasn't an internationalist though. He made some material improvements. But he didn't end the system. Non violence only gets so far. Its a tactic to be used based on the conditions on the ground. Not my favor tactic though. Are you familiar with the 1934 Teamster strike in MN? The company (not ups) sent thugs to bust the strike. They beat back the thugs & the police in street fights & won! The local was led by Socialists at the time. We had to have wars to get rid of a king, slavery & nazis. There were fights in the streets against the kkk & the neo nazis in the usa. We drove the neo nazis out of the south side, we didn't use non violence. You got to fight fire with fire sometimes. The leaders in 1886 weren't labeled as anarchist, they were anarchist. The people were mislead to what anarchy is. I was in Wi. when it was hitting the fan. One of the difference between then and now, is that now the movement tends to get co-opted by the democratic party. They put all their eggs in electoral politics & none in movement politics. The occupy movement is an anarchist movement. I know when they try to sweat me, I'm doing the right thing. Met Ron Careys son.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brother Joe, post: 968253, member: 41239"] I'm rebutting the red baiting, have you read the thread? The negative conotations associated with anarchism is from the proganda of the right in this country. It is believed because of the political backwardness of the working class in the usa. The chicken or the egg? At some point people have to take personal responsibility for their education though. It may not improve my position in the short term but I'm looking at the long term. I'm looking beyond just wages & benefits. The system needs to be fundamentally changed or were going to have the same battles year after year. The eventual goal is anarcho syndicalism (the workers running the work place) direct democracy. Gandhi wasn't an anarchist. His work caused the end of the colonialistion of India. It was an advance, but he wasn't an internationalist though. He made some material improvements. But he didn't end the system. Non violence only gets so far. Its a tactic to be used based on the conditions on the ground. Not my favor tactic though. Are you familiar with the 1934 Teamster strike in MN? The company (not ups) sent thugs to bust the strike. They beat back the thugs & the police in street fights & won! The local was led by Socialists at the time. We had to have wars to get rid of a king, slavery & nazis. There were fights in the streets against the kkk & the neo nazis in the usa. We drove the neo nazis out of the south side, we didn't use non violence. You got to fight fire with fire sometimes. The leaders in 1886 weren't labeled as anarchist, they were anarchist. The people were mislead to what anarchy is. I was in Wi. when it was hitting the fan. One of the difference between then and now, is that now the movement tends to get co-opted by the democratic party. They put all their eggs in electoral politics & none in movement politics. The occupy movement is an anarchist movement. I know when they try to sweat me, I'm doing the right thing. Met Ron Careys son. [/QUOTE]
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