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Maybe getting rid of 2/3 isn't a good idea..
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<blockquote data-quote="Inthegame" data-source="post: 3957082" data-attributes="member: 37112"><p>I'm trying to not point out your ignorance but you're leaving me little recourse.</p><p>Please tell me you're not deluded enough to believe these "elections" operate under the same criteria Union elections do? </p><p>Are the governed in these elections freely offered the opportunity to write (and rewrite) their constitution every five years. Is <strong>every</strong> governed participant eligible to be nominated to run for office under simple eligibility rules? Are retaliatory measures in place for not voting in union elections?</p><p>I refer to Local elections as the best example members have to witness the extraordinary protections in place to guarantee clean elections, which are no where to be found in your linked examples. </p><p>Elections are not the only mechanism.</p><p></p><p>But it's not reality, it's a convoluted stretch of logic. Here's what your saying... if A=B, B=3, then A=dog. </p><p>Average members do what members have always done, support others who are willing to stand up. </p><p></p><p>Thankfully, some members do get involved, stand up for others, put targets on their own backs and take the hits for the greater good.</p><p> </p><p>And then some others stay well hidden and try to be clever on anonymous forums, by making inane comparisons.</p><p></p><p>Takes every kind of people...to make the world go round.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Inthegame, post: 3957082, member: 37112"] I'm trying to not point out your ignorance but you're leaving me little recourse. Please tell me you're not deluded enough to believe these "elections" operate under the same criteria Union elections do? Are the governed in these elections freely offered the opportunity to write (and rewrite) their constitution every five years. Is [B]every[/B] governed participant eligible to be nominated to run for office under simple eligibility rules? Are retaliatory measures in place for not voting in union elections? I refer to Local elections as the best example members have to witness the extraordinary protections in place to guarantee clean elections, which are no where to be found in your linked examples. Elections are not the only mechanism. But it's not reality, it's a convoluted stretch of logic. Here's what your saying... if A=B, B=3, then A=dog. Average members do what members have always done, support others who are willing to stand up. Thankfully, some members do get involved, stand up for others, put targets on their own backs and take the hits for the greater good. And then some others stay well hidden and try to be clever on anonymous forums, by making inane comparisons. Takes every kind of people...to make the world go round. [/QUOTE]
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