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<blockquote data-quote="dmac1" data-source="post: 4616994" data-attributes="member: 60252"><p>Look at Dem states- the wealthiest are almost all Dem run, while the poorest states are repub run. If you say Dem policies lead to terrible conditions in cities, you can't ignore the huge wealth difference. Doing as you did is hypocritical, but you likely didn't know any better.</p><p></p><p>Before the ACA, I had individual coverage and it was crap and still costing $400 a month, and I had to pay all my own bill up to $7500 before they kicked in even a dime. That was basically incentive to never go to a doctor because even a simple check up cost me $400 out of pocket. Under the ACA, you can get annual checkups, lab tests, cancer screenings, flu shots, etc included at NO further cost out of pocket. The ACA is definitely better coverage than almost anyone had. Annual caps and 'coinsurance were causing massive numbers of bankruptcies. The fixed max out of pocket under the ACA has all but eliminated medical bankruptcies. You almost never hear about medical bankruptcies anymore, and even fewer hospitals and doctors offices are going broke because now, under the ACA, they get paid, at least until Trump made freeloading literally free without any tax penalty for beeing a freeloader. Personal responsibility is just a codeword for NO responsibility for republicans.Under the ACA, people with good health insurance paid lower taxes than those without. Trump stopped that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think people don't have a clue about what insurance covered before and after the ACA. Even employer plans were required to make huge improvements in covereage. After I retired, but before Medicare started, the ACA was literally a life saver. Premiums were capped at 10% of my income, and I spent almost nothing out of pocket to find pre-diabetes which runs in the family. Finding it early almost certainly saved taxpayers money. A few back problems were treated which allows me to walk, also increasing my health. Taxpayers will probably save more on painkillers over time than the procedure ever cost them. A huge part of the ACA was preventative care intended to make people healthier as they age, reducing costs for years and years as people move into Medicare, which is almost fully taxpayer funded. I know the ACA made me healthierduring the 3 years I was covered under it.</p><p>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dmac1, post: 4616994, member: 60252"] Look at Dem states- the wealthiest are almost all Dem run, while the poorest states are repub run. If you say Dem policies lead to terrible conditions in cities, you can't ignore the huge wealth difference. Doing as you did is hypocritical, but you likely didn't know any better. Before the ACA, I had individual coverage and it was crap and still costing $400 a month, and I had to pay all my own bill up to $7500 before they kicked in even a dime. That was basically incentive to never go to a doctor because even a simple check up cost me $400 out of pocket. Under the ACA, you can get annual checkups, lab tests, cancer screenings, flu shots, etc included at NO further cost out of pocket. The ACA is definitely better coverage than almost anyone had. Annual caps and 'coinsurance were causing massive numbers of bankruptcies. The fixed max out of pocket under the ACA has all but eliminated medical bankruptcies. You almost never hear about medical bankruptcies anymore, and even fewer hospitals and doctors offices are going broke because now, under the ACA, they get paid, at least until Trump made freeloading literally free without any tax penalty for beeing a freeloader. Personal responsibility is just a codeword for NO responsibility for republicans.Under the ACA, people with good health insurance paid lower taxes than those without. Trump stopped that. I think people don't have a clue about what insurance covered before and after the ACA. Even employer plans were required to make huge improvements in covereage. After I retired, but before Medicare started, the ACA was literally a life saver. Premiums were capped at 10% of my income, and I spent almost nothing out of pocket to find pre-diabetes which runs in the family. Finding it early almost certainly saved taxpayers money. A few back problems were treated which allows me to walk, also increasing my health. Taxpayers will probably save more on painkillers over time than the procedure ever cost them. A huge part of the ACA was preventative care intended to make people healthier as they age, reducing costs for years and years as people move into Medicare, which is almost fully taxpayer funded. I know the ACA made me healthierduring the 3 years I was covered under it. . [/QUOTE]
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