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<blockquote data-quote="Ironshot" data-source="post: 206649" data-attributes="member: 6881"><p>Red705,Local776,fredless,</p><p>You're grown and understand math and the written word. Just solve the riddle as to WHY does the Machinist Union members within the UPS shops get $7000 plus a month in retirement and Teamster members ( Both parties rec'ving the same weekly contributions to the respective funds) will get the amount equal to a third of or upto 50 percent of Machinist Union member's pension? </p><p>It's right in front of your faces and you refuse to see the problem...The Machinist Union has done it's membership right...</p><p>The Teamsters have taken advantage of the rank and file, mismanaged the retirement fund to death.</p><p>Let's say for the sake of arguing the APWA gets in, yes it will take a little time to get its footing possibly but in the long run</p><p>you package people will get 100% of the $200 plus contributed each week. We in Freight won't get our dime store Pension tossed into a bottomless pit... gone to all the failed outfits once under Teamster control. Under the APWA,</p><p>there is no failing retirement account to suck our funds away.</p><p>It will be what we've earned already and then the APWA plan would grow with the contributions neg. under a contract.</p><p>Your calls about answering questions is lame since nothing told to you matters. Fact, reason or "It's the right thing to do" for the UPSers now and in the future. </p><p>On top of all the crap talk The APWA has the ability to get (YOUR) Pension dollars upon your death forwarded to your spouse or your kids and Estate. The IBT gives your wife 50 percent minus a 350 p/mo. processing fee for only five blanking years. Nothing to the Kids or Estate. You worked for it just like the pay check; it should be YOUR money. </p><p>How can the APWA do this? Study up on Single Employer plans VS Multi-Employer plans. So the Crap about the APWA being new and note having everything in the bag right out of the gate is another lame arguement. The IBT has been at it for you Package people since when? And still the IBT hasn't gotten it right! If you really want to be a ho for the IBT organization then send me your private home address so I can atleast send you guys some lubrication.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ironshot, post: 206649, member: 6881"] Red705,Local776,fredless, You're grown and understand math and the written word. Just solve the riddle as to WHY does the Machinist Union members within the UPS shops get $7000 plus a month in retirement and Teamster members ( Both parties rec'ving the same weekly contributions to the respective funds) will get the amount equal to a third of or upto 50 percent of Machinist Union member's pension? It's right in front of your faces and you refuse to see the problem...The Machinist Union has done it's membership right... The Teamsters have taken advantage of the rank and file, mismanaged the retirement fund to death. Let's say for the sake of arguing the APWA gets in, yes it will take a little time to get its footing possibly but in the long run you package people will get 100% of the $200 plus contributed each week. We in Freight won't get our dime store Pension tossed into a bottomless pit... gone to all the failed outfits once under Teamster control. Under the APWA, there is no failing retirement account to suck our funds away. It will be what we've earned already and then the APWA plan would grow with the contributions neg. under a contract. Your calls about answering questions is lame since nothing told to you matters. Fact, reason or "It's the right thing to do" for the UPSers now and in the future. On top of all the crap talk The APWA has the ability to get (YOUR) Pension dollars upon your death forwarded to your spouse or your kids and Estate. The IBT gives your wife 50 percent minus a 350 p/mo. processing fee for only five blanking years. Nothing to the Kids or Estate. You worked for it just like the pay check; it should be YOUR money. How can the APWA do this? Study up on Single Employer plans VS Multi-Employer plans. So the Crap about the APWA being new and note having everything in the bag right out of the gate is another lame arguement. The IBT has been at it for you Package people since when? And still the IBT hasn't gotten it right! If you really want to be a ho for the IBT organization then send me your private home address so I can atleast send you guys some lubrication. [/QUOTE]
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