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<blockquote data-quote="cachsux" data-source="post: 373823" data-attributes="member: 5529"><p>Nowhere,other than from the mouths of the company side,has it ever been said that we want "better than the rest". Did we see things go down in the national contract that we want to avoid? Yes,but so would all of you if the tables were turned. If someone walked up and hit the guy in front of you with a bat and then turned to you would you (A) think "It`s in my best interest to not get hit with that bat, or (B) think "hey they got it. we should take it too" All silliness aside most of what we are trying to do is close the loopholes the company used against us in the last contract and reject the absolutely absurd stuff they want. 40 hour workweek in non consecutive days and loss of seniority if you go on comp or fmla. the latter part concerning fmla is actually a violation of federal law and they think they can put it in a contract.</p><p> </p><p>As far as having the rest of the company go on strike to get what we want,hell,we don't want OURSELVES to go on strike much less anyone else. We did the continue to work under the old contract stuff in the past and all the company did was drag it out for months while they monkey around at the negotiating table. This time we are telling them that it`s not happening this time. As far as what we want out of the rest of you it`s nothing more than the support we would give you in the same situation. I challenge anyone under the national to dig in the posts from when you were negotiating your contract and find ANY posts by a member of the 705 that tells you guys to "take what they`re offering" or "we still work if you walk" kind of post like we have gotten from some. anyone who thinks that in my opinion is wrong. </p><p> </p><p> If you feel you`ve have a strong reason to cross a picket line then do so. But when the time for a raise comes don`t stick out your hand. When a family member gets sick don't reach for that insurance card. when you retire don't look for that pension check. You can`t enjoy the benefits of a unions work if you don't stand up for it`s principals.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cachsux, post: 373823, member: 5529"] Nowhere,other than from the mouths of the company side,has it ever been said that we want "better than the rest". Did we see things go down in the national contract that we want to avoid? Yes,but so would all of you if the tables were turned. If someone walked up and hit the guy in front of you with a bat and then turned to you would you (A) think "It`s in my best interest to not get hit with that bat, or (B) think "hey they got it. we should take it too" All silliness aside most of what we are trying to do is close the loopholes the company used against us in the last contract and reject the absolutely absurd stuff they want. 40 hour workweek in non consecutive days and loss of seniority if you go on comp or fmla. the latter part concerning fmla is actually a violation of federal law and they think they can put it in a contract. As far as having the rest of the company go on strike to get what we want,hell,we don't want OURSELVES to go on strike much less anyone else. We did the continue to work under the old contract stuff in the past and all the company did was drag it out for months while they monkey around at the negotiating table. This time we are telling them that it`s not happening this time. As far as what we want out of the rest of you it`s nothing more than the support we would give you in the same situation. I challenge anyone under the national to dig in the posts from when you were negotiating your contract and find ANY posts by a member of the 705 that tells you guys to "take what they`re offering" or "we still work if you walk" kind of post like we have gotten from some. anyone who thinks that in my opinion is wrong. If you feel you`ve have a strong reason to cross a picket line then do so. But when the time for a raise comes don`t stick out your hand. When a family member gets sick don't reach for that insurance card. when you retire don't look for that pension check. You can`t enjoy the benefits of a unions work if you don't stand up for it`s principals. [/QUOTE]
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