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<blockquote data-quote="SameRightsForAll" data-source="post: 3765673" data-attributes="member: 10588"><p>Let's look at the math...</p><p></p><p>In a 2/3rds situation, Non voters (people who sat it out whether intentionally or not) have twice the voting power of an actual voter.</p><p></p><p>This is why it's reserved for a Final Offer only and not to be used to abuse or game the election. UPS has made no such Final Offer as of Oct 5, 2018. It made a first offer and we voted NO on it, 54% to 46%.</p><p></p><p>UPS knows that the 2/3rds rule was NOT in effect so they had no choice to but acknowledge that the contract was voted down, which is was.</p><p></p><p>What happened two hours after this is unacceptable and a shame.</p><p></p><p>If the union is this divided then why should you care if a member wants to get out of this political machine. That's none of your business. If you like how the contract was rammed through without the approval of the voters, then you're probably a Yes voter and it went good for you and nothing else matters, but what if Yes was 54% and No was 46% and Hoffa called for a strike anyway. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL THEN.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SameRightsForAll, post: 3765673, member: 10588"] Let's look at the math... In a 2/3rds situation, Non voters (people who sat it out whether intentionally or not) have twice the voting power of an actual voter. This is why it's reserved for a Final Offer only and not to be used to abuse or game the election. UPS has made no such Final Offer as of Oct 5, 2018. It made a first offer and we voted NO on it, 54% to 46%. UPS knows that the 2/3rds rule was NOT in effect so they had no choice to but acknowledge that the contract was voted down, which is was. What happened two hours after this is unacceptable and a shame. If the union is this divided then why should you care if a member wants to get out of this political machine. That's none of your business. If you like how the contract was rammed through without the approval of the voters, then you're probably a Yes voter and it went good for you and nothing else matters, but what if Yes was 54% and No was 46% and Hoffa called for a strike anyway. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL THEN. [/QUOTE]
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