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<blockquote data-quote="refineryworker05" data-source="post: 3015159" data-attributes="member: 66082">White men as a group have higher employment rates, and make more money when compared to similarly educated black men in the same careers.&nbsp; They did a study and found that black male physicians made $60,000 per year less than white male physicians.&nbsp; When even black physicians face this level of discrimination.....I wish this weren&#039;t true.&nbsp; I wish we had parity or justice or whatever but we don&#039;t.Plus people don&#039;t actually care about people being given a leg up in life that systematically benefits one group over another, we expect it.So in the trades men get their sons and relatives in those jobs all the time, basically if your dad or granddad is an electrician you have a better chance to become an electrician and find steady work.&nbsp; It is a huge unearned advantage.&nbsp;Black people historically were kept out of the trades, so their dads and grandfathers are far less likely to have gotten those jobs, or made those connections.&nbsp; So because those jobs are still dominated by who you know... its not difficult to understand the systematic disadvantage towards black people seeking those jobs, but that&#039;s life right.Women out perform men in high school by a lot.&nbsp; So nearly every university right now has affirmative action for male students to keep the universities from being too female.I wonder when I&#039;ll hear the cries of oh the discrimination against women in university admittance.I just want people treated fairly.&nbsp; It is not happening in America. And it hurts the lives of millions of Americans.Please before you doubt this go look at employment stats by education and race and be amazed at what you see.&nbsp; And that&#039;s just one area of American life.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="refineryworker05, post: 3015159, member: 66082"] White men as a group have higher employment rates, and make more money when compared to similarly educated black men in the same careers. They did a study and found that black male physicians made $60,000 per year less than white male physicians. When even black physicians face this level of discrimination..... I wish this weren't true. I wish we had parity or justice or whatever but we don't. Plus people don't actually care about people being given a leg up in life that systematically benefits one group over another, we expect it. So in the trades men get their sons and relatives in those jobs all the time, basically if your dad or granddad is an electrician you have a better chance to become an electrician and find steady work. It is a huge unearned advantage. Black people historically were kept out of the trades, so their dads and grandfathers are far less likely to have gotten those jobs, or made those connections. So because those jobs are still dominated by who you know... its not difficult to understand the systematic disadvantage towards black people seeking those jobs, but that's life right. Women out perform men in high school by a lot. So nearly every university right now has affirmative action for male students to keep the universities from being too female. I wonder when I'll hear the cries of oh the discrimination against women in university admittance. I just want people treated fairly. It is not happening in America. And it hurts the lives of millions of Americans. Please before you doubt this go look at employment stats by education and race and be amazed at what you see. And that's just one area of American life. [/QUOTE]

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