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<blockquote data-quote="raceanoncr" data-source="post: 299358" data-attributes="member: 6408"><p><strong>Re: Need som advice.</strong></p><p></p><p>Listen, Saugie, you and me are gonna catch a lot of flack over this one but bear with it, as I do.</p><p> </p><p>First of all, what do you think a steward is for? Your steward is kinda like a watchdog. There are violations? The steward is notified and he/she talks to management. They don't wanna listen, then he/she has you fill out a grievance and it's turned in to be arbitrated, first locally, then at state panel, then at JAC, if need be. </p><p> </p><p>You say you and others are forced to lift "over 70's" by yourself? Do you know what the contract says? In short, it says you are not required to do this without bargaining unit help. Period! It's in black and white. And remember, <strong>THE UNION AND THE COMPANY <u>BOTH </u></strong>signed this agreement, meaning <strong>both </strong>sides have to abide by it. </p><p> </p><p>As for the girl that was forced to lift her arm and be "diagnosed" by the center manager or whoever, that was her bad. She could have demanded to be taken to the hospital, <strong>ON THE CLOCK</strong>. When confronted with that possibiliy here, most supes, CMs, and others have backed off and let it go. </p><p> </p><p>As for retaliation following the filing of a grievance, do you perform your job? Do you follow all the methods? Sure, you WILL have a target on your back for a while, but if you do everything right, what can harm you. Okay, some will get on here and say you can get fired for anything, no matter if you're doing things perfectly or not but that is what fair labor practices are for. You have a process to go through and if you are wrongly terminated, it is the companys responsiblity to PROVE your wrongness without a doubt. </p><p> </p><p>On a personal side note, here, I probably file more grievances than anybody in our department. No, I'm not a steward. Why do I file so many grievances? Because I follow the contract. Simple. I only file when I know I'm right. I only file when I know the company is wrong. I do my job better than the supes or CMs could EVER do. I follow all the methods, rules, regs. Simple. I know I have a target on my back, but, you know what? I don't care. I over heard a situation a couple months back that made me laugh. An hourly with more seniority was ready to punch out, along with myself. The supe asked me first if I wanted to go back out and make a pickup, without consulting the senior driver first (feeders). I said no, the senior said yes. Later, while walking down the stairs, I over heard the senior nailing the supe why he asked me first if I wanted the xtra work. The supe said they have to be careful with me because I file on everything! Well, in this case, his procedure was wrong, but I thought it was funny. </p><p> </p><p>In short, make em do right, but, you also must do right!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="raceanoncr, post: 299358, member: 6408"] [b]Re: Need som advice.[/b] Listen, Saugie, you and me are gonna catch a lot of flack over this one but bear with it, as I do. First of all, what do you think a steward is for? Your steward is kinda like a watchdog. There are violations? The steward is notified and he/she talks to management. They don't wanna listen, then he/she has you fill out a grievance and it's turned in to be arbitrated, first locally, then at state panel, then at JAC, if need be. You say you and others are forced to lift "over 70's" by yourself? Do you know what the contract says? In short, it says you are not required to do this without bargaining unit help. Period! It's in black and white. And remember, [B]THE UNION AND THE COMPANY [U]BOTH [/U][/B]signed this agreement, meaning [B]both [/B]sides have to abide by it. As for the girl that was forced to lift her arm and be "diagnosed" by the center manager or whoever, that was her bad. She could have demanded to be taken to the hospital, [B]ON THE CLOCK[/B]. When confronted with that possibiliy here, most supes, CMs, and others have backed off and let it go. As for retaliation following the filing of a grievance, do you perform your job? Do you follow all the methods? Sure, you WILL have a target on your back for a while, but if you do everything right, what can harm you. Okay, some will get on here and say you can get fired for anything, no matter if you're doing things perfectly or not but that is what fair labor practices are for. You have a process to go through and if you are wrongly terminated, it is the companys responsiblity to PROVE your wrongness without a doubt. On a personal side note, here, I probably file more grievances than anybody in our department. No, I'm not a steward. Why do I file so many grievances? Because I follow the contract. Simple. I only file when I know I'm right. I only file when I know the company is wrong. I do my job better than the supes or CMs could EVER do. I follow all the methods, rules, regs. Simple. I know I have a target on my back, but, you know what? I don't care. I over heard a situation a couple months back that made me laugh. An hourly with more seniority was ready to punch out, along with myself. The supe asked me first if I wanted to go back out and make a pickup, without consulting the senior driver first (feeders). I said no, the senior said yes. Later, while walking down the stairs, I over heard the senior nailing the supe why he asked me first if I wanted the xtra work. The supe said they have to be careful with me because I file on everything! Well, in this case, his procedure was wrong, but I thought it was funny. In short, make em do right, but, you also must do right! [/QUOTE]
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