Home
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Members
Current visitors
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe UPS Forum
UPS Discussions
New Orleans
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="ok2bclever" data-source="post: 47975"><p>So everyone down there deserved to die and suffer because they were lazy or stupid and are at fault for being down there. </p><p></p><p>Is that your final simplistic answer danny?</p><p></p><p>I always prefer facts over emotions, but many don't as it gets in the way of how they view their little world.</p><p></p><p>For those not capable of following simple links this pretty much sums up why we will still need New Orleans.</p><p></p><p>A simple way to think about the New Orleans port complex is that it is where the bulk commodities of agriculture go out to the world and the bulk commodities of industrialism come in. The commodity chain of the global food industry starts here, as does that of American industrialism. If these facilities are gone, more than the price of goods shifts: The very physical structure of the global economy would have to be reshaped. Consider the impact to the U.S. auto industry if steel doesn't come up the river, or the effect on global food supplies if U.S. corn and soybeans don't get to the markets.</p><p></p><p>The problem is that there are no good shipping alternatives. River transport is cheap, and most of the commodities we are discussing have low value-to-weight ratios. The U.S. transport system was built on the assumption that these commodities would travel to and from New Orleans by barge, where they would be loaded on ships or offloaded. Apart from port capacity elsewhere in the United States, there aren't enough trucks or rail cars to handle the long-distance hauling of these enormous quantities -- assuming for the moment that the economics could be managed, which they can't be. </p><p></p><p>The location may be sucky, but the reality is the end of the mouth of the Mississippi has to remain at least a major industrial complex and that means people must live in the area to run the entire infrastructure that is needed for that to function.</p><p></p><p>I do agree with tie that the rebuilding has to accommodate more than a hope that the next cat 3 or worse doesn't come anytime soon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ok2bclever, post: 47975"] So everyone down there deserved to die and suffer because they were lazy or stupid and are at fault for being down there. Is that your final simplistic answer danny? I always prefer facts over emotions, but many don't as it gets in the way of how they view their little world. For those not capable of following simple links this pretty much sums up why we will still need New Orleans. A simple way to think about the New Orleans port complex is that it is where the bulk commodities of agriculture go out to the world and the bulk commodities of industrialism come in. The commodity chain of the global food industry starts here, as does that of American industrialism. If these facilities are gone, more than the price of goods shifts: The very physical structure of the global economy would have to be reshaped. Consider the impact to the U.S. auto industry if steel doesn't come up the river, or the effect on global food supplies if U.S. corn and soybeans don't get to the markets. The problem is that there are no good shipping alternatives. River transport is cheap, and most of the commodities we are discussing have low value-to-weight ratios. The U.S. transport system was built on the assumption that these commodities would travel to and from New Orleans by barge, where they would be loaded on ships or offloaded. Apart from port capacity elsewhere in the United States, there aren't enough trucks or rail cars to handle the long-distance hauling of these enormous quantities -- assuming for the moment that the economics could be managed, which they can't be. The location may be sucky, but the reality is the end of the mouth of the Mississippi has to remain at least a major industrial complex and that means people must live in the area to run the entire infrastructure that is needed for that to function. I do agree with tie that the rebuilding has to accommodate more than a hope that the next cat 3 or worse doesn't come anytime soon. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe UPS Forum
UPS Discussions
New Orleans
Top