Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Face it, you were busted, lol.
NEW STUDY SUGGESTS CLOTH MASKS ARE A 90 PERCENT FAILURE INDOORS AT PREVENTING KUNG FLU!
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what do you mean?
what makes you think the science is reputable? or the website for that matter?
oldngray
nowhere special
The only "reputable" sources are people like Chomsky and Nader.
seriously how did wally figure that source of info is reputable?
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Cloth masks are pretty useless when it comes to stopping a virus, which is smaller than the space between the threads of the cloth,
oldngray
nowhere special
Not really even news. That was known a long time ago.
i havent heard otherwise.
Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
You saw masks being challenged and instead of looking at the study, you immediately dismissed the whole thing because you deemed the reporting site not worthy of your consideration.
BUSTED!
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
And yet they force us to wear them
By way of comparison, the ASTM-certified masks will be required to filter out far less than an N95 mask but will still offer much more protection than do most consumer face coverings currently on the market, says Jose-Luis Jimenez, PhD, professor of chemistry at the University of Colorado in Boulder. Right now, “I can guarantee you that half of what is sold doesn’t meet either level 1 or level 2 of the new standard,” says Jimenez, who studies aerosols. “So as the standard starts to be applied, consumers will have a way to choose.”
New Standards Will Help You Choose an Effective COVID-19 Face Mask - Consumer Reports
New standards from ASTM International will help you choose an effective COVID-19 face mask, Consumer Reports says. You could soon start seeing new labels that cover filtration efficiency, fit, and breathability.
yea i wanted to question your logic first about why you think its true or not.
what makes you think the science is reputable? or the website for that matter?
“There are certain situations where a basic cloth mask is fine, like if you’re socializing with friends outside,” says Monica Gandhi, MD, an infectious disease physician at the University of California, San Francisco. But if you spend most of your day with others indoors—for example, in a workplace or at school—or are at higher risk for complications for COVID-19, then more protection is warranted, she advises.
While an N95 is the gold standard, providing the highest level of protection when worn correctly, some cloth masks also work well. In fact, with a few changes they can be just as effective as surgical masks, according to a study published last December in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine....
Anthony Fauci, MD, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, recently said that he often wears two masks. But if double masking is not done the right way, it may backfire. You don’t want two thick, loose fitting layers with air “spilling out the sides,” says Richard Martinello, MD, an infectious disease expert at the Yale School of Medicine in New Haven, Conn.
For best results, wear a cloth mask on top of a surgical one. “The surgical mask will act as a filter, and the cloth mask will provide an extra filtering layer and improve the fit,” Gandhi says.
A January study she published in the journal Med found that this combination can filter out over 90 percent of particles larger than a micrometer, “which is about the size of most respiratory aerosols that transmit COVID-19,” she says. “But a cloth mask over a cloth mask won’t offer that much more protection, and it can make it a lot more difficult to breathe or for people to hear you, which makes it more likely you’ll pull it down to talk, which defeats the purpose entirely.”
Combining a cloth mask and a surgical mask also lets you leverage two types of protection at once, Dickerson says. Think of a basic cloth mask as a chain-link fence, a more tightly woven one as a screen door, and a viral particle as a gnat, he says. Layers of screen doors stacked on top of each other are going to be hard for a gnat to get through. But adding an electrostatic filter or a medical mask provides an additional layer of protection because anything that tries to get through the tiny pores will also be pulled toward the pores’ edges by the electrostatic charge.
The CDC study found that if an infected person and an uninfected person were both wearing cloth masks over surgical masks, the uninfected person’s exposure could be reduced by 96.4 percent. (That number was about 83 percent if the infected person was unmasked.)
www.consumerreports.org
so again CR doesnt align with what you guys are saying...
While an N95 is the gold standard, providing the highest level of protection when worn correctly, some cloth masks also work well. In fact, with a few changes they can be just as effective as surgical masks, according to a study published last December in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine....
Double Up Strategically
Anthony Fauci, MD, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, recently said that he often wears two masks. But if double masking is not done the right way, it may backfire. You don’t want two thick, loose fitting layers with air “spilling out the sides,” says Richard Martinello, MD, an infectious disease expert at the Yale School of Medicine in New Haven, Conn.
For best results, wear a cloth mask on top of a surgical one. “The surgical mask will act as a filter, and the cloth mask will provide an extra filtering layer and improve the fit,” Gandhi says.
A January study she published in the journal Med found that this combination can filter out over 90 percent of particles larger than a micrometer, “which is about the size of most respiratory aerosols that transmit COVID-19,” she says. “But a cloth mask over a cloth mask won’t offer that much more protection, and it can make it a lot more difficult to breathe or for people to hear you, which makes it more likely you’ll pull it down to talk, which defeats the purpose entirely.”
Combining a cloth mask and a surgical mask also lets you leverage two types of protection at once, Dickerson says. Think of a basic cloth mask as a chain-link fence, a more tightly woven one as a screen door, and a viral particle as a gnat, he says. Layers of screen doors stacked on top of each other are going to be hard for a gnat to get through. But adding an electrostatic filter or a medical mask provides an additional layer of protection because anything that tries to get through the tiny pores will also be pulled toward the pores’ edges by the electrostatic charge.
The CDC study found that if an infected person and an uninfected person were both wearing cloth masks over surgical masks, the uninfected person’s exposure could be reduced by 96.4 percent. (That number was about 83 percent if the infected person was unmasked.)
5 Ways to Upgrade Your Mask in 2021 - Consumer Reports
With more contagious coronavirus variants spreading, a simple cloth mask might not always be enough. Consumer Reports explains how to upgrade your mask.
so again CR doesnt align with what you guys are saying...
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Double this“There are certain situations where a basic cloth mask is fine, like if you’re socializing with friends outside,” says Monica Gandhi, MD, an infectious disease physician at the University of California, San Francisco. But if you spend most of your day with others indoors—for example, in a workplace or at school—or are at higher risk for complications for COVID-19, then more protection is warranted, she advises.
While an N95 is the gold standard, providing the highest level of protection when worn correctly, some cloth masks also work well. In fact, with a few changes they can be just as effective as surgical masks, according to a study published last December in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine....
Double Up Strategically
Anthony Fauci, MD, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, recently said that he often wears two masks. But if double masking is not done the right way, it may backfire. You don’t want two thick, loose fitting layers with air “spilling out the sides,” says Richard Martinello, MD, an infectious disease expert at the Yale School of Medicine in New Haven, Conn.
For best results, wear a cloth mask on top of a surgical one. “The surgical mask will act as a filter, and the cloth mask will provide an extra filtering layer and improve the fit,” Gandhi says.
A January study she published in the journal Med found that this combination can filter out over 90 percent of particles larger than a micrometer, “which is about the size of most respiratory aerosols that transmit COVID-19,” she says. “But a cloth mask over a cloth mask won’t offer that much more protection, and it can make it a lot more difficult to breathe or for people to hear you, which makes it more likely you’ll pull it down to talk, which defeats the purpose entirely.”
Combining a cloth mask and a surgical mask also lets you leverage two types of protection at once, Dickerson says. Think of a basic cloth mask as a chain-link fence, a more tightly woven one as a screen door, and a viral particle as a gnat, he says. Layers of screen doors stacked on top of each other are going to be hard for a gnat to get through. But adding an electrostatic filter or a medical mask provides an additional layer of protection because anything that tries to get through the tiny pores will also be pulled toward the pores’ edges by the electrostatic charge.
The CDC study found that if an infected person and an uninfected person were both wearing cloth masks over surgical masks, the uninfected person’s exposure could be reduced by 96.4 percent. (That number was about 83 percent if the infected person was unmasked.)
5 Ways to Upgrade Your Mask in 2021 - Consumer Reports
With more contagious coronavirus variants spreading, a simple cloth mask might not always be enough. Consumer Reports explains how to upgrade your mask.
so again CR doesnt align with what you guys are saying...
oldngray
nowhere special
“There are certain situations where a basic cloth mask is fine, like if you’re socializing with friends outside,” says Monica Gandhi, MD, an infectious disease physician at the University of California, San Francisco. But if you spend most of your day with others indoors—for example, in a workplace or at school—or are at higher risk for complications for COVID-19, then more protection is warranted, she advises.
While an N95 is the gold standard, providing the highest level of protection when worn correctly, some cloth masks also work well. In fact, with a few changes they can be just as effective as surgical masks, according to a study published last December in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine....
Double Up Strategically
Anthony Fauci, MD, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, recently said that he often wears two masks. But if double masking is not done the right way, it may backfire. You don’t want two thick, loose fitting layers with air “spilling out the sides,” says Richard Martinello, MD, an infectious disease expert at the Yale School of Medicine in New Haven, Conn.
For best results, wear a cloth mask on top of a surgical one. “The surgical mask will act as a filter, and the cloth mask will provide an extra filtering layer and improve the fit,” Gandhi says.
A January study she published in the journal Med found that this combination can filter out over 90 percent of particles larger than a micrometer, “which is about the size of most respiratory aerosols that transmit COVID-19,” she says. “But a cloth mask over a cloth mask won’t offer that much more protection, and it can make it a lot more difficult to breathe or for people to hear you, which makes it more likely you’ll pull it down to talk, which defeats the purpose entirely.”
Combining a cloth mask and a surgical mask also lets you leverage two types of protection at once, Dickerson says. Think of a basic cloth mask as a chain-link fence, a more tightly woven one as a screen door, and a viral particle as a gnat, he says. Layers of screen doors stacked on top of each other are going to be hard for a gnat to get through. But adding an electrostatic filter or a medical mask provides an additional layer of protection because anything that tries to get through the tiny pores will also be pulled toward the pores’ edges by the electrostatic charge.
The CDC study found that if an infected person and an uninfected person were both wearing cloth masks over surgical masks, the uninfected person’s exposure could be reduced by 96.4 percent. (That number was about 83 percent if the infected person was unmasked.)
5 Ways to Upgrade Your Mask in 2021 - Consumer Reports
With more contagious coronavirus variants spreading, a simple cloth mask might not always be enough. Consumer Reports explains how to upgrade your mask.
so again CR doesnt align with what you guys are saying...
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Lmao!
maybe if dear leader trump did this he wouldnt have got it?
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
You’ve been right all along about it having to burn through the population before it ends. The vaccines have only served to slow the process.
Trump is no longer president.
he still got corona and actually thats why he didnt get a second term which is sad considering how awful and corrupt he was.