New Video! UPS offering Buyouts to its Drivers....

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
So who started the false narrative that retiree benefits will be cut with any buyout? It wasn't the company.

If it wasn't the company, this type of false information is not helpful. It fuels mistrust. If you cannot believe both sides, who can you trust?
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
So who started the false narrative that retiree benefits will be cut with any buyout? It wasn't the company.

If it wasn't the company, this type of false information is not helpful. It fuels mistrust. If you cannot believe both sides, who can you trust?
Well, to be fair, we don’t know what is true and what is false yet. And the no insurance is partially true if people aren’t qualified for the insurance as they wouldn’t normally have to be anyway.

I have no idea what information the international has that we don’t currently, and I’m not certain who or why health insurance has become a talking point.
Let’s wait and see.
 

Manifesto

Well-Known Member
They could do that now if they wanted. They don't have to wait for me to quit.
Yeah, but it's still going to be cheaper with less drivers. Cut a bunch of routes now and you've got drivers at top pay working in the building and the bottom seniority from all sorts forced out. Lose a bunch of top pay drivers, you still have drivers going out heavy but you don't have many or any bumping into the sorts so the sorts are back to being run by more employees making lowest pay.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Well, to be fair, we don’t know what is true and what is false yet. And the no insurance is partially true if people aren’t qualified for the insurance as they wouldn’t normally have to be anyway.

I have no idea what information the international has that we don’t currently, and I’m not certain who or why health insurance has become a talking point.
Let’s wait and see.
I first spotted the healthcare scare on FB. It was a Teamster posting but there are many.
 

nWo

Well-Known Member
If your supplement says you are eligible for retiree healthcare the you should still be eligible. I don't see how they could change that.
 

Well-Known Member

Back From Break
Well, to be fair, we don’t know what is true and what is false yet. And the no insurance is partially true if people aren’t qualified for the insurance as they wouldn’t normally have to be anyway.

I have no idea what information the international has that we don’t currently, and I’m not certain who or why health insurance has become a talking point.
Let’s wait and see.

You said it in your first paragraph. Hypothetically speaking, of course, of "buyouts."

If you were to take a "buyout" and were not eligible, either through age or years of service, for healthcare, then you would most likely lose your healthcare.

Teamcare has a one punch per week to keep healthcare. And you need to have a certain number of years of service, and/or be a certain age, to be eligible for the retiree healthcare. So, if a 50 year old with 20 years of service were to take a "buyout," they would not be eligible to keep their healthcare or to apply for retiree healthcare.

Again, hypothetically speaking.
 

Well-Known Member

Back From Break
If your supplement says you are eligible for retiree healthcare the you should still be eligible. I don't see how they could change that.

That would not change. The speculation is that drivers who are not yet eligible for the retiree healthcare.

UPS would not care if someone took the retiree healthcare. They no longer have anything to do with it.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
You said it in your first paragraph. Hypothetically speaking, of course, of "buyouts."

If you were to take a "buyout" and were not eligible, either through age or years of service, for healthcare, then you would most likely lose your healthcare.

Teamcare has a one punch per week to keep healthcare. And you need to have a certain number of years of service, and/or be a certain age, to be eligible for the retiree healthcare. So, if a 50 year old with 20 years of service were to take a "buyout," they would not be eligible to keep their healthcare or to apply for retiree healthcare.

Again, hypothetically speaking.
Yep. I don’t know of any other way it could be taken. Either way I’m gonna guess there’s lawsuits coming.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
That's just reality.

UPS just :censored2:ed with everyone before a 3-day weekend.
Not sure what to think about this yet although it is curious, they announced it before they revealed it.
Maybe they just wanted to see what the international would say or do? 🤷‍♂️
Anybody’s guess right now.
 
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