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<blockquote data-quote="nospinzone" data-source="post: 173596" data-attributes="member: 1335"><p>Bug, Your childish insults almost make me cry.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/crying.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":crying:" title="Crying :crying:" data-shortname=":crying:" /> You're just so mean and ruthless that you almost scared me into throwing my hands up, giving up on the APWA, and running into the open, comforting arms of the IBT. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/lol.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Lol :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p></p><p>But to answer your same questions for, I believe the fifth time,,,,,</p><p><strong>1. Why is the apwa not registered with the dept of labor as a union ?</strong></p><p>The APWA will be registered with the DOL after we win the NLRB election. NLRB petition cards are being collected. Just be patient.</p><p><strong>2. Why is the apwa's tax status listed as "non-profit religious organization" ?</strong></p><p>APWA is listed as a 501(c)(3) entity for tax purposes. This tax classification includes a variety of organizations, including religious entities. As I have provided for you on numerous other occasions, here is the description that the IRS places on groups, not limited to religious entities, wishing to apply for a 501(c)(3) tax exemption...</p><p></p><p>The APWA doesn't seek to profit from representing UPS employees, but only wishes to improve the workplace and compensation of its members.</p><p></p><p><strong>3. Why don't you explain to the folks that after a decertification from the Teamsters they will work for a year with no contract or representation....</strong>Your lie about the NLRB election process hasn't become anymore convincing. If you visit the NLRB website and review the petition process, you will find that there are six kinds of petitions. The one applicable in our situation is the RM petition which provides for an election with a definable winner if <em>one or more individuals or unions have sought recognition as the bargaining representative, or based on a reasonable belief supported by objective considerations that the currently recognized union has lost its majority status</em>. SOURCE. Now if we were wishing to simply decertify the Teamsters, your'e arguement would be correct. However, using the RM-petition, this guarantees that there will be a winner of the election, and the newly elected CBA, by definition, has the power and expressed approval of the voters to engage in negotiations with the employer to secure a contract. And I've already provided you with documentation of the precedence in a NLRB case that protects the old contract while a new contract is being negotiated with a newly elected bargaining agent....STATUS QUO.</p><p>Now, BUG, tell me <u>why would the NLRB hold an election and then tell the new bargaining agent that they can't negotiate a new contract for a year?? Better yet, show me a source in the NLRA that validates your lie!</u></p><p><strong>4. You expect that you can build a strike fund in 6 months.... Dream on. The Teamsters have 60 million in ours. Then your are going to cut dues in half after 7 months.... Right.</strong>You can never have too much reserve in your strike fund, but those first six months will get us well on the way. The strike fund will grow quickly and the APWA will be able to cut their dues because they dont have the added expense and overhead of servicing a million other members who have nothing to do with our work at UPS. And since the APWA isn't in the business of profiting from its members, why should they continue collecting dues at the IBT's inflated rates?</p><p></p><p><strong>5. Where are you going to get money for a Pac fund.... Can't use dues for that.... Has to come from donations from the members.</strong></p><p>You answered your own question. </p><p></p><p><strong>6. Your overhead would be lower.... The apwa is only 2 people.</strong> Really? If you choose to ignore reality, thats your perogative. But if you would like to read it in black and white......</p><p></p><p></p><p>LIES AND DECEPTION AND LIES AND DECEPTION AND LIES AND DECEPTION AND LIES AND DECEPTION AND LIES AND DECEPTION</p><p></p><p>Expect more of that if we stay with the Teamsters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nospinzone, post: 173596, member: 1335"] Bug, Your childish insults almost make me cry.:crying: You're just so mean and ruthless that you almost scared me into throwing my hands up, giving up on the APWA, and running into the open, comforting arms of the IBT. :lol: But to answer your same questions for, I believe the fifth time,,,,, [B]1. Why is the apwa not registered with the dept of labor as a union ?[/B] The APWA will be registered with the DOL after we win the NLRB election. NLRB petition cards are being collected. Just be patient. [B]2. Why is the apwa's tax status listed as "non-profit religious organization" ?[/B] APWA is listed as a 501(c)(3) entity for tax purposes. This tax classification includes a variety of organizations, including religious entities. As I have provided for you on numerous other occasions, here is the description that the IRS places on groups, not limited to religious entities, wishing to apply for a 501(c)(3) tax exemption... The APWA doesn't seek to profit from representing UPS employees, but only wishes to improve the workplace and compensation of its members. [B]3. Why don't you explain to the folks that after a decertification from the Teamsters they will work for a year with no contract or representation....[/B]Your lie about the NLRB election process hasn't become anymore convincing. If you visit the NLRB website and review the petition process, you will find that there are six kinds of petitions. The one applicable in our situation is the RM petition which provides for an election with a definable winner if [I]one or more individuals or unions have sought recognition as the bargaining representative, or based on a reasonable belief supported by objective considerations that the currently recognized union has lost its majority status[/I]. SOURCE. Now if we were wishing to simply decertify the Teamsters, your'e arguement would be correct. However, using the RM-petition, this guarantees that there will be a winner of the election, and the newly elected CBA, by definition, has the power and expressed approval of the voters to engage in negotiations with the employer to secure a contract. And I've already provided you with documentation of the precedence in a NLRB case that protects the old contract while a new contract is being negotiated with a newly elected bargaining agent....STATUS QUO. Now, BUG, tell me [U]why would the NLRB hold an election and then tell the new bargaining agent that they can't negotiate a new contract for a year?? Better yet, show me a source in the NLRA that validates your lie![/U] [B]4. You expect that you can build a strike fund in 6 months.... Dream on. The Teamsters have 60 million in ours. Then your are going to cut dues in half after 7 months.... Right.[/B]You can never have too much reserve in your strike fund, but those first six months will get us well on the way. The strike fund will grow quickly and the APWA will be able to cut their dues because they dont have the added expense and overhead of servicing a million other members who have nothing to do with our work at UPS. And since the APWA isn't in the business of profiting from its members, why should they continue collecting dues at the IBT's inflated rates? [B]5. Where are you going to get money for a Pac fund.... Can't use dues for that.... Has to come from donations from the members.[/B] You answered your own question. [B]6. Your overhead would be lower.... The apwa is only 2 people.[/B] Really? If you choose to ignore reality, thats your perogative. But if you would like to read it in black and white...... LIES AND DECEPTION AND LIES AND DECEPTION AND LIES AND DECEPTION AND LIES AND DECEPTION AND LIES AND DECEPTION Expect more of that if we stay with the Teamsters. [/QUOTE]
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