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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 282359" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>That is an interesting question. Would 9/11 have happened? Would the American witch burnings of the 1700's have taken place? The crusades? Would a group of pilgrims have ever left the Old World for the New World? The list I would think could be endless to say the least.</p><p></p><p>Have you ever pondered "what is Religion?" Seems on the one hand kinda stupid to ask but consider this part of the definition of Religion:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Based on that part of the definition, I'd think it's fair to say that religion will not only be always with us but in fact is all around us. Even a strong devotee of atheistism who goes about his belief with zeal would fit the definition of a religious person. I think it fair to say based of the definiton above that we all in some form or manner are religious, it's just on specifics where we part company or in the case of some merge with others to form collective groups which make us feel secure and even powerful in our beliefs. It's that insecurity or fear that others will take or overpower our beliefs (whether justified or not) that cause the conflict that in the end cause the abuse of the human condition and situation.</p><p></p><p>The Sci-Fi novel Dune was an admixture of religion and political strife and struggle but I always thought one saying from the book/movie that was most insightful:</p><p></p><p>"Fear is the mindkiller!" I think we've all had our mind killed from time to time because we lack faith in ourselves and thus we doubt our own beliefs as a result. When we have more around us who believe the same we then feel secure and the doubt subsides. Tomorrow according to tradition, a man was born some 2k plus years ago and some 33 years later he faced a situation all alone and those who had stood by him had turned from him. In my case, I'm sure glad he had the strenght to stand strong when all around him succumbed the the mindkiller, FEAR!</p><p></p><p>A strong sword is always first tempered by fire. Don't worry yourself with the frailing about of those whom you differ and may seem to have an upperhand. If you believe then stand strong with your family and continue to do as you've done even if you end up being the only one doing it. I also believe in the end that like the Tower of Babel that beliefs are so diverse that your foes in the end will argue and fight among themselves (the real lesson of the story IMO) thus bringing down the very Tower they built to magnify themselves. Once divided and weak they will fall like the overripe fruit from a tree and rot upon the ground!</p><p></p><p>JMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 282359, member: 2189"] That is an interesting question. Would 9/11 have happened? Would the American witch burnings of the 1700's have taken place? The crusades? Would a group of pilgrims have ever left the Old World for the New World? The list I would think could be endless to say the least. Have you ever pondered "what is Religion?" Seems on the one hand kinda stupid to ask but consider this part of the definition of Religion: Based on that part of the definition, I'd think it's fair to say that religion will not only be always with us but in fact is all around us. Even a strong devotee of atheistism who goes about his belief with zeal would fit the definition of a religious person. I think it fair to say based of the definiton above that we all in some form or manner are religious, it's just on specifics where we part company or in the case of some merge with others to form collective groups which make us feel secure and even powerful in our beliefs. It's that insecurity or fear that others will take or overpower our beliefs (whether justified or not) that cause the conflict that in the end cause the abuse of the human condition and situation. The Sci-Fi novel Dune was an admixture of religion and political strife and struggle but I always thought one saying from the book/movie that was most insightful: "Fear is the mindkiller!" I think we've all had our mind killed from time to time because we lack faith in ourselves and thus we doubt our own beliefs as a result. When we have more around us who believe the same we then feel secure and the doubt subsides. Tomorrow according to tradition, a man was born some 2k plus years ago and some 33 years later he faced a situation all alone and those who had stood by him had turned from him. In my case, I'm sure glad he had the strenght to stand strong when all around him succumbed the the mindkiller, FEAR! A strong sword is always first tempered by fire. Don't worry yourself with the frailing about of those whom you differ and may seem to have an upperhand. If you believe then stand strong with your family and continue to do as you've done even if you end up being the only one doing it. I also believe in the end that like the Tower of Babel that beliefs are so diverse that your foes in the end will argue and fight among themselves (the real lesson of the story IMO) thus bringing down the very Tower they built to magnify themselves. Once divided and weak they will fall like the overripe fruit from a tree and rot upon the ground! JMO. [/QUOTE]
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