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<blockquote data-quote="randomUPSISer" data-source="post: 681705" data-attributes="member: 24399"><p>Keep thinking that along with all the other arrogant UPS managers up high. In the meantime the talented individuals will continue leaving the company in droves. Perhaps myself included. (Last several years my "merit raises" have been almost as much as other promotions)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> The math works out for me, and my job. It actually works out for alot of UPS specialist, and IT... its the reason we were hired in the first place. Where most of the math doesnt work out is in actual management. I dont think anyone in the company will disagree that there are too many managers and too many levels. As for being lucky, you might want to check the "least affected job markets". Healthcare, and IT are the number 1 and 2 respectively.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Yes I do believe the shareholders should eat the cost of raises. Why? Because without those raises we are seeing the "best and the brightest" leave the company. I know arrogant UPS upper management seem to think that all you need are geniuses in the level 20 and up and all of us are only to follow their orders, but successful companies simply dont work that way. UPS's "Human capital" is leaving in droves. Our balanced scorecard is a laughable manipulation of it (look at the people element and tell me if its "balanced" or not in relation to financial?) When the recession is over, UPS will NOT be poised to take advantage of the new climate because all the good worker bee's will have left the company. However, we will look good in the short term since we are sacrificing people for better financial performance. (Disagree? Go do some reading on what a balanced score card is supposed to be)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Mostly agree.</p><p></p><p>Simply put, LAYOFFS are the better way to go than punishing everyone. Punishing us all simply drags down those who remain, and drives out those who know they can get more elsewhere. A company is nothing but the combination of the intelligence and abilities of its people. UPS's hubs wont run without the labor guys, our planes wont fly without pilots, our planes wont get fixed without mechanics. Similiarly, our IT systems wont get cost savings changes to them without bright IT guys, without engineers new processes wont happen, etc etc. In knowledge based jobs, you absolutely HAVE to keep the best and the brightest around. They carry the other 80% of their work groups</p><p></p><p>UPS can go against that if they want, but it would be going against nearly everything taught in business schools, and against every case study of a wildly successful company in modern times.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="randomUPSISer, post: 681705, member: 24399"] Keep thinking that along with all the other arrogant UPS managers up high. In the meantime the talented individuals will continue leaving the company in droves. Perhaps myself included. (Last several years my "merit raises" have been almost as much as other promotions) The math works out for me, and my job. It actually works out for alot of UPS specialist, and IT... its the reason we were hired in the first place. Where most of the math doesnt work out is in actual management. I dont think anyone in the company will disagree that there are too many managers and too many levels. As for being lucky, you might want to check the "least affected job markets". Healthcare, and IT are the number 1 and 2 respectively. Yes I do believe the shareholders should eat the cost of raises. Why? Because without those raises we are seeing the "best and the brightest" leave the company. I know arrogant UPS upper management seem to think that all you need are geniuses in the level 20 and up and all of us are only to follow their orders, but successful companies simply dont work that way. UPS's "Human capital" is leaving in droves. Our balanced scorecard is a laughable manipulation of it (look at the people element and tell me if its "balanced" or not in relation to financial?) When the recession is over, UPS will NOT be poised to take advantage of the new climate because all the good worker bee's will have left the company. However, we will look good in the short term since we are sacrificing people for better financial performance. (Disagree? Go do some reading on what a balanced score card is supposed to be) Mostly agree. Simply put, LAYOFFS are the better way to go than punishing everyone. Punishing us all simply drags down those who remain, and drives out those who know they can get more elsewhere. A company is nothing but the combination of the intelligence and abilities of its people. UPS's hubs wont run without the labor guys, our planes wont fly without pilots, our planes wont get fixed without mechanics. Similiarly, our IT systems wont get cost savings changes to them without bright IT guys, without engineers new processes wont happen, etc etc. In knowledge based jobs, you absolutely HAVE to keep the best and the brightest around. They carry the other 80% of their work groups UPS can go against that if they want, but it would be going against nearly everything taught in business schools, and against every case study of a wildly successful company in modern times. [/QUOTE]
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