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<blockquote data-quote="brownblood" data-source="post: 682228" data-attributes="member: 271"><p>I agree with noway. For those of us who have been here for 20+ years, we have seen the most proud and strongest mgt philosophy has become a shell of it's former self. Ever since the company went public, it has been on a downslide. There are Division and District level people who have never held a driver accountable or even ridden with one to improve his performance. The strong and determined leadership that was once there, is gone. There are too few " determined men working together..." left to accomplish real changes/improvements. Unfortunately, there will be more negative changes. I do not see the present downslide reversing. We haven't even seen how this consolidation will work. I doubt 3% will be the real number when all is said and done. From attrition due to forced career changes, location changes, and other reasons, it will be higher. </p><p></p><p>Ben-Ben, I don't think the only issue is the fact that we are a union company. For me, it is the leadership or rather, the lack thereof. Hopefully, you are not of the mindset that we are "too big to fail". Although I won't deny Noway's concern for the high cost of being a union company and how it is a factor. Our business model is one that is accustomed to being a monopoly. The competition has forced us into a box we are not ready to be in after so many years of being a monopoly.</p><p></p><p>And yes, UPS has not laid off or force cut backs to date. Yes, the jobs are all still there. No forced pay cuts. But it is hard for all of us who have been in Mgt for many years to digest these changes. To ask us to give up our values, ethics, and determination we have been groomed and mentored with, for the sake of quick fixes and profitability. I remember when mgt would say to one another that so and so sup/mngr wasn't fired because it was the right thing to do. They had been put in a situation that was not right and fair and poor results occurred as a consequence. Today, that person is gone 9 out of 10 times.</p><p></p><p>As I recall, there were district consolidations only 1 year ago. So when is it enough? And I don't see how this will lead to micr-mgt. How can 1 region go from Washington state to the gulf coast be micro-managed? With less mgt people?</p><p></p><p>Jim Casey had a quote and I am probably paraphrasing it:</p><p></p><p>"If we are only in business to make money; then there is no surer way for us to go out of business."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brownblood, post: 682228, member: 271"] I agree with noway. For those of us who have been here for 20+ years, we have seen the most proud and strongest mgt philosophy has become a shell of it's former self. Ever since the company went public, it has been on a downslide. There are Division and District level people who have never held a driver accountable or even ridden with one to improve his performance. The strong and determined leadership that was once there, is gone. There are too few " determined men working together..." left to accomplish real changes/improvements. Unfortunately, there will be more negative changes. I do not see the present downslide reversing. We haven't even seen how this consolidation will work. I doubt 3% will be the real number when all is said and done. From attrition due to forced career changes, location changes, and other reasons, it will be higher. Ben-Ben, I don't think the only issue is the fact that we are a union company. For me, it is the leadership or rather, the lack thereof. Hopefully, you are not of the mindset that we are "too big to fail". Although I won't deny Noway's concern for the high cost of being a union company and how it is a factor. Our business model is one that is accustomed to being a monopoly. The competition has forced us into a box we are not ready to be in after so many years of being a monopoly. And yes, UPS has not laid off or force cut backs to date. Yes, the jobs are all still there. No forced pay cuts. But it is hard for all of us who have been in Mgt for many years to digest these changes. To ask us to give up our values, ethics, and determination we have been groomed and mentored with, for the sake of quick fixes and profitability. I remember when mgt would say to one another that so and so sup/mngr wasn't fired because it was the right thing to do. They had been put in a situation that was not right and fair and poor results occurred as a consequence. Today, that person is gone 9 out of 10 times. As I recall, there were district consolidations only 1 year ago. So when is it enough? And I don't see how this will lead to micr-mgt. How can 1 region go from Washington state to the gulf coast be micro-managed? With less mgt people? Jim Casey had a quote and I am probably paraphrasing it: "If we are only in business to make money; then there is no surer way for us to go out of business." [/QUOTE]
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