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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 1001424" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>I'm not talking partisan politics, I'm talking about the reality on the ground. Businesses pulled out of many high tax, high cost states, taking their jobs with them. People put out of work with few jobs in a bad economy left looking for work. The result is those states got a double hit of lost revenue and are struggling to make ends meet. Sorry about the Liberal World comments but if you are going to attack me I tend to fire back...</p><p></p><p>As for my research, I read The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, USAToday, The Economist, watch both FOX News and MSNBC. I repeat what I read and hear from people who know more than I, and I often draw my own conclusions. As for Liberals on FOX, Bob Beckel, who's worked in several Democrat administrations as well as ran several presidential campaigns. Numerous others who are invited on representing numerous liberal organizations who argue their points very vehemently. James Carville was on the other night. Numerous Democrat Congressmen have been on. Apparently giving their very opposite views while not devolving into cursing and name calling isn't good enough for some. I just don't see this level of bi-partisan discussion on MSNBC. I do see a lot of smugness and name calling and on occasion down right distortion of quotes on MSNBC. You say you don't watch FOX, but say everything I say is a FOX talking point. By the way, I think Sean Hannity is way too pro big business. I sometimes disagree with Bill O'Reilly but despite attacks on him I've seen him strive to be balanced and hear opposing opinions. Come over to the Dark Side Lordtekk... <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 1001424, member: 24302"] I'm not talking partisan politics, I'm talking about the reality on the ground. Businesses pulled out of many high tax, high cost states, taking their jobs with them. People put out of work with few jobs in a bad economy left looking for work. The result is those states got a double hit of lost revenue and are struggling to make ends meet. Sorry about the Liberal World comments but if you are going to attack me I tend to fire back... As for my research, I read The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, USAToday, The Economist, watch both FOX News and MSNBC. I repeat what I read and hear from people who know more than I, and I often draw my own conclusions. As for Liberals on FOX, Bob Beckel, who's worked in several Democrat administrations as well as ran several presidential campaigns. Numerous others who are invited on representing numerous liberal organizations who argue their points very vehemently. James Carville was on the other night. Numerous Democrat Congressmen have been on. Apparently giving their very opposite views while not devolving into cursing and name calling isn't good enough for some. I just don't see this level of bi-partisan discussion on MSNBC. I do see a lot of smugness and name calling and on occasion down right distortion of quotes on MSNBC. You say you don't watch FOX, but say everything I say is a FOX talking point. By the way, I think Sean Hannity is way too pro big business. I sometimes disagree with Bill O'Reilly but despite attacks on him I've seen him strive to be balanced and hear opposing opinions. Come over to the Dark Side Lordtekk... :) [/QUOTE]
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