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<blockquote data-quote="RockyRogue" data-source="post: 249346" data-attributes="member: 7185"><p>Ahhhhhh......shouldn't do it....shouldn't do it......Ahhh, D*MMIT! Aight...you've lured me in, Homer. I'm not an idiot. I know the definition of union and I know the <em>purpose</em> of a union. However, I'm also a student of history. I've gotten a little too bored for my own good in the last several years. Having ready access to an Internet-connected computer has only enabled my research. I'm all for the <strong><em>old</em></strong> idea of unionization. This happens to the <em>same</em> reason UPS <strong><em>did not</em></strong> put up a fight, indeed, <em>invited</em> the IBT in. One of those reasons is as a sort of "check" on management abuses. I think the IBT has strayed from that purpose. In all honesty, I'm not certain when that happened. Maybe APWA supporters can help me there. The union isn't destroyed by one contract. No, its destroyed by <em>many</em> contracts. I'm afraid you're seeing a steady erosion. You can have your brotherhood and solidarity, just don't get angry when some decide they don't like it OR what is negotiated for them. I speak from firsthand experience here, Homer. My brother works for a restaurant. Their starting wages for kitchen help are <em>equal</em> to our starting wages for <em>skilled</em> labor. YOU GOING TO TELL ME SOLIDARITY IS DOING ME ANY GOOD???? </p><p> </p><p>Care for another round, Homer? -Rocky</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RockyRogue, post: 249346, member: 7185"] Ahhhhhh......shouldn't do it....shouldn't do it......Ahhh, D*MMIT! Aight...you've lured me in, Homer. I'm not an idiot. I know the definition of union and I know the [I]purpose[/I] of a union. However, I'm also a student of history. I've gotten a little too bored for my own good in the last several years. Having ready access to an Internet-connected computer has only enabled my research. I'm all for the [B][I]old[/I][/B] idea of unionization. This happens to the [I]same[/I] reason UPS [B][I]did not[/I][/B] put up a fight, indeed, [I]invited[/I] the IBT in. One of those reasons is as a sort of "check" on management abuses. I think the IBT has strayed from that purpose. In all honesty, I'm not certain when that happened. Maybe APWA supporters can help me there. The union isn't destroyed by one contract. No, its destroyed by [I]many[/I] contracts. I'm afraid you're seeing a steady erosion. You can have your brotherhood and solidarity, just don't get angry when some decide they don't like it OR what is negotiated for them. I speak from firsthand experience here, Homer. My brother works for a restaurant. Their starting wages for kitchen help are [I]equal[/I] to our starting wages for [I]skilled[/I] labor. YOU GOING TO TELL ME SOLIDARITY IS DOING ME ANY GOOD???? Care for another round, Homer? -Rocky [/QUOTE]
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