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<blockquote data-quote="BrownArmy" data-source="post: 1028281" data-attributes="member: 18225"><p>But, but, but...</p><p></p><p>Tooner, when Romney talks about the '47%' of American citizens who don't pay income taxes, that includes senior citizens, active military, the working-poor, families with children/mortgages etc. etc, who take advantage of tax incentives put in place by members of both parties.</p><p></p><p>Many of these people are Republicans and would likely vote for Romney.</p><p></p><p>When he equates the '47%' of non-income tax paying citizens to the exact same locked-in 47% who are going to vote for Obama, it's just not correct.</p><p></p><p>I know he was talking about his election-strategy to a bunch of $50,000-a-plate donors, but his math doesn't add up.</p><p></p><p>I think Republicans are a little nervous, because they're real 'hard' on the non-income tax portion of the US populace, but in many cases it's Republicans who worked in these tax 'credits' for the bottom of the financial populace:</p><p></p><p>These are the same Republicans that championed the Earned Income credit (Reagan), mortgage deductions for the 'middle-class', child-tax-deductions, etc.</p><p></p><p>(It's a win-win for Republicans, because they can say that they didn't raise taxes, but in reality they raised overall-taxes for everyone by championing these deductions into the tax code...you can't have it both ways!...i.e. don't slam the people that are benefiting from tax-policies that you endorsed, and then slam <em>whatever </em>President happens to be in office about the tax-code).</p><p></p><p></p><p>For Romney to talk about the '47%', he's talking about a significant portion of people who will likely vote for him, and he's alienating them by calling them 'victims'.</p><p></p><p>I agree with Menotyou: I hate 'moochers' (my idiot brother is one), but the '47%' Romney is talking about who don't pay taxes, they largely don't pay taxes due to bi-partisan support of tax-credits to the bottom rung of the economic ladder.</p><p></p><p>So, who's fibbing?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownArmy, post: 1028281, member: 18225"] But, but, but... Tooner, when Romney talks about the '47%' of American citizens who don't pay income taxes, that includes senior citizens, active military, the working-poor, families with children/mortgages etc. etc, who take advantage of tax incentives put in place by members of both parties. Many of these people are Republicans and would likely vote for Romney. When he equates the '47%' of non-income tax paying citizens to the exact same locked-in 47% who are going to vote for Obama, it's just not correct. I know he was talking about his election-strategy to a bunch of $50,000-a-plate donors, but his math doesn't add up. I think Republicans are a little nervous, because they're real 'hard' on the non-income tax portion of the US populace, but in many cases it's Republicans who worked in these tax 'credits' for the bottom of the financial populace: These are the same Republicans that championed the Earned Income credit (Reagan), mortgage deductions for the 'middle-class', child-tax-deductions, etc. (It's a win-win for Republicans, because they can say that they didn't raise taxes, but in reality they raised overall-taxes for everyone by championing these deductions into the tax code...you can't have it both ways!...i.e. don't slam the people that are benefiting from tax-policies that you endorsed, and then slam [I]whatever [/I]President happens to be in office about the tax-code). For Romney to talk about the '47%', he's talking about a significant portion of people who will likely vote for him, and he's alienating them by calling them 'victims'. I agree with Menotyou: I hate 'moochers' (my idiot brother is one), but the '47%' Romney is talking about who don't pay taxes, they largely don't pay taxes due to bi-partisan support of tax-credits to the bottom rung of the economic ladder. So, who's fibbing? [/QUOTE]
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