Obamas Budget Speech Was.....

Obamas Budget Speach Was....

  • Only talking points.

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Highly partesan.

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Missing specifics.

    Votes: 6 46.2%
  • Not sure, I fell asleep like the VP.

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Great.

    Votes: 1 7.7%

  • Total voters
    13

Babagounj

Strength through joy
In massachusetts , we have an option for those that wish to pay their state taxes at an older higher rate. Considering just how liberal this state is, with both houses and the governor all democrats , including our very rich US Senator Kerry , would you like to know just how many choose to pay the higher rate ?
Less than .0001 %.
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The POTUS idea of taxing the rich is an old idea. So when is he going to bring this new change he promised to DC ?
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
Love him or hate him....someone trying to wade through the smoke & mirrors...

[video=youtube;c74xZB0_35w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c74xZB0_35w[/video]
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Anybody who finds "dirt" on your guy, you just call them stupid and dumb.

It's not about hating Morris. It's about "Who the hell is he to know anything?" What does he know about budgets? He used to be a political mastermind, but that's just about scoring points for the team that's paying him. I'm not so sure he's that good anymore. How about Stockman? Now there's a budget minded guy.
 

Lue C Fur

Evil member
Dick Morris has cashed-in big time with a lot of postulating and commentary that hasn't been very accurate. Every prediction he's made has been dead wrong.

Prove that "Every prediction he's made has been dead wrong". Or is that just the Liberal talking points...Deny, call stupid, racist, liar, charts incorrect, polls lie, its from FOX, etc.
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
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moreluck

golden ticket member
When someone who's the prez. gives a 'speech' filled with no specifics about how he is going to solve a problem.....then we are still amazed by his lack of economic education and math ability and the talking will continue for a long time. Mostly because people just can't believe he thinks his plan will work.
 

island1fox

Well-Known Member
Its amazing how many of you are "trapped" by right wing talking points... Cutting taxes, cutting spending, smaller goverment, blah blah blah....

For the last 31 years since Ronald Reagan (the first to exceed the trillion dollar level, and in fact left 3.7 trillion in debt when he left office) this country has LOST revenue each year despite the claims by the republicans.

We wouldnt be in this mess if we as a nation hadnt shipped 15.5 million jobs out of this country. For every job that leaves this country, valuable dollars in taxes go along with it.

Reagan cut taxes for the top 1% of earners 25% and ran a deficit every year he was in office. Reagan took unemployment to 10.7% by the end of his second year. Reagan spent 3 dollars for every 1 dollar taken in by the federal goverment. Corporations began their exodus from this country during this 8 year period. Reagan RAISED taxes on the middle class in 7 areas in the last 4 years of his term to try and curb his running deficits.

Bush 1 insisted "no new taxes on the rich" and added another 2 trillion to Reagans mess. Bush 1 was FORCED to raise taxes in order to keep the goverment from going broke. When he left after 4 years and running the country into the ground, he left almost 5 trillion in debt for Clinton.

Clinton came in and RAISED taxes on the top 1%, created jobs here in the states, took unemployment down, balanced the budget with deep cuts, and put this country on solid footing for 8 years.

Bush2 comes into the white house and CUTS taxes on the top 1% of earners 25% again, takes unemployment to 7%, leaves a 10.7 trillion dollar debt, leaves 2 wars ongoing and unpaid, passes a drug prescription bill costing a half trillion that went unpaid, corporations leave the united states at a rate higher than at any time in history, creates a housing crisis, creates a financial crisis and places the USA in the biggest recession since the great depression along with the cooperation of the republican held congress and senate and destroys 8 years of good times.


TOS,

I agree with many of your cuts. For example ,how is it possible that a politician can do their Senate or House job and spend 100% of their time running for a different office ? Because in reality the huge staffs that we are paying for do all the work.
In the area of foreign aid our dollars should be spent here at home until we are out of this mess. NO money to ANY country !!!
Bring all the troops home from every where around the world. Have our military work on natural disater relief at home and help to rebuild bridges,roads and infrastucture.
The only money that should be spent on "Defense" should be in fact defense --missle defense system and closing our borders.
All tax deductions for all levels should be eliminated, no foundations etc,etc.
The money collected from elimination of tax deductions MUST go only to paying down the debt.
Corporations that use workers overseas should have the highest tax rates--Corporations growing domestic jobs should pay the minimun.
All welfare programs should have job training and a time limit . No generational welfare. Also every welfare or if you desire "entitlement" program must have a very small "co-pay" nothing is FREE.
The government should coordinate with the Private sector on unemployment. Look at and match up the work classified ads to the unemployed. I know plenty of recent College graduates who did not like working, left their jobs, liberal boards granted unemployment ,they have moved back with Mom and Dad, Obama put them on Free healthcare that we pay for with higher premiums until they are 26 and they are living the "Party life" collecting unemployment for drinking money.
If our dopey politicians cannot compromise on tax increases and entitlement reforms the country is doomed.
As far as Retired or senior people -the greatest danger is the Super threat to the value of the dollar --not a modification of the entitlements !!
TOS -on some points we agree again --why can't our so called LEADERS do the same. I am tired of Obama's smooth talking points and re-election campaign as the country is dying --The PRESIDENT should STAND up and LEAD.
 

klein

Für Meno :)
Corporations that use workers overseas should have the highest tax rates--Corporations growing domestic jobs should pay the minimun.

That is a great idea.:smart:

Now how exactly will that work ?
Tax UPS and Fedex more, along with Coca Cola, Mac D's, GM, Ford, Safeway, Walmart, IBM, Apple, Hertz & Budget, Exxon, Chevron, etc ?
And if that's the case, they'll just move their headquarters right out of the US !
 

island1fox

Well-Known Member
Now how exactly will that work ?
Tax UPS and Fedex more, along with Coca Cola, Mac D's, GM, Ford, Safeway, Walmart, IBM, Apple, Hertz & Budget, Exxon, Chevron, etc ?
And if that's the case, they'll just move their headquarters right out of the US !


Klein,
This is not rocket science .
If you are producing a product that is then shipped around the world that can be manufactured in the U.S. then you are a candidate for the high tax.
If you are providing a "Service" such as a computer phone center and handling calls throughout the world it should be done within U.S. borders.
Company like the friend word or UPS that is providing a "domestic" Service --intra country would be exempt.

It would be very easy to determine if the product or service could be within U.S. borders.
A great example is the HEINZ company that has over 75% of their factories in foreign countries and then ship their products back to the U.S. for consumption.

You are missing the main point --If the U.S. incented the Corporate headquarters by extreme LOW or no Tax Why would they move out ???
The main problem is the Highest Corp tax rate in the world --the wage schedule is very secondary !!
 

klein

Für Meno :)
Klein,
Company like the friend word or UPS that is providing a "domestic" Service --intra country would be exempt.

So, you are totally fine with UPS moving all their Call centers to India and the Phillipines, as long as the workers don't produce any goods that could be shipped back to the US ?

Okay fine, it's you that will need to pay more for a Apple Iphone, or notebook, any electronics.
So, if an American buys an Iphone (made in China), that phone will cost now more, because Apple will need to pay more taxes.
But, if that same American buys a Blackberry (Canadian company), there won't be any added costs to it, since the Canadian company is not subject to those added taxes.

Is that your way to save jobs ? Put the American companies more out of competition ?
 
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