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<blockquote data-quote="bbsam" data-source="post: 936161" data-attributes="member: 22662"><p>What do they have to negotiate with? I would start with what they've given up already to the 1% and gotten the shaft for it. Go all the way back to Clinton's signing of NAFTA. Or Reagan's beginning of deregulation of businesses small and large. Yes, businesses did great. They did wonderfully. What did workers get in return. Fired, displaced, wage reductions, and an explanation that they were "not economically viable in the company going forward". Screwed, in shorthand. Thirty years of it with companies making more and more and workers having their wages stagnate and decline. </p><p></p><p>Fast forward to 2008 and an economy (not just banks) deemed too big to fail. Bail-outs and prop-ups abound for the people who are corporations with speech (as Citizens United has taught us) and the rest, the work-a-day stiff is left wondering what happened. The worker is not without blame. We let this happen. We voted in the politicians that live off the blood of campaign money. As long as "we got ours" we signed on to the two-tiered pay structures, remained silent when benefits were trimmed and pensions slashed. </p><p></p><p>But there comes a point when the populace has to find a voice, has to be recognized and has to make it clear to politicians whom exactly they work for. That is not to condone violence or disgusting personal displays. But as a whole, it is a movement that has something to say and won't be silenced. Actually, it's a movement late to the party. Obama has been about exactly this ideal from the beginning. This is the transformational movement I believe he was looking for.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bbsam, post: 936161, member: 22662"] What do they have to negotiate with? I would start with what they've given up already to the 1% and gotten the shaft for it. Go all the way back to Clinton's signing of NAFTA. Or Reagan's beginning of deregulation of businesses small and large. Yes, businesses did great. They did wonderfully. What did workers get in return. Fired, displaced, wage reductions, and an explanation that they were "not economically viable in the company going forward". Screwed, in shorthand. Thirty years of it with companies making more and more and workers having their wages stagnate and decline. Fast forward to 2008 and an economy (not just banks) deemed too big to fail. Bail-outs and prop-ups abound for the people who are corporations with speech (as Citizens United has taught us) and the rest, the work-a-day stiff is left wondering what happened. The worker is not without blame. We let this happen. We voted in the politicians that live off the blood of campaign money. As long as "we got ours" we signed on to the two-tiered pay structures, remained silent when benefits were trimmed and pensions slashed. But there comes a point when the populace has to find a voice, has to be recognized and has to make it clear to politicians whom exactly they work for. That is not to condone violence or disgusting personal displays. But as a whole, it is a movement that has something to say and won't be silenced. Actually, it's a movement late to the party. Obama has been about exactly this ideal from the beginning. This is the transformational movement I believe he was looking for. [/QUOTE]
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