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<blockquote data-quote="JonFrum" data-source="post: 707225" data-attributes="member: 18044"><p>I don't know for sure but it seems the I-9 certification was originally to be done by almost all employers but only on New Hires. Anyone remember "Simpson-Mazzoli;" the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, which applied only from that day foreward. That's why those of us hired before the Act didn't have to be verified, and don't have to be verified now even if we went to kindergarten with Osama. (He was such a hellraiser even then.) <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy2.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy2:" title="Happy2 :happy2:" data-shortname=":happy2:" /> The bill contained a limited amnesty provision incidentally. </p><p> </p><p>The Act required employers to verify the documents of New Hires but specifically prohibited re-verifying people thereafter. Look on your official bulletin board at UPS and you should see a light blue poster saying that the employer may not verify before actually hireing a job applicant, and cannot re-verify current employees!!!!!!! The verification on New Hires hired after November 1986 must be kept for three years.</p><p> </p><p>However, recent government contracts contain a clause that all employees who may handle the contracted items must be currently verified. Thus, although the government requires it, it is only a requirement if UPS voluntarily applies for and gets a government contract. It's like the requirements to recite all that safety dribble. The government requires it only because UPS was repeatedly caught violating OSHA regulations, was fined heavily, and UPS cut "plea-deals" known as a Corporate Settlement Agreements, to lessen the fines and the extent of the charges. Obligating us to recite the safety dribble gets UPS off the hook, or at least on a smaller hook.</p><p> </p><p>So when UPS says, "It's not us, it's the government making us do it," that's not quite true.</p><p> </p><p>Since applying for a government contract is an <u>optional</u> thing, if any bargaining unit member looses their job, they may have a case that UPS got the government contract without negotiating with the Union over the adverse effects as labor law requires. My concern is not for true illegals that snuck across the border, but for long time residents and union members with strong cases to make.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JonFrum, post: 707225, member: 18044"] I don't know for sure but it seems the I-9 certification was originally to be done by almost all employers but only on New Hires. Anyone remember "Simpson-Mazzoli;" the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, which applied only from that day foreward. That's why those of us hired before the Act didn't have to be verified, and don't have to be verified now even if we went to kindergarten with Osama. (He was such a hellraiser even then.) :happy2: The bill contained a limited amnesty provision incidentally. The Act required employers to verify the documents of New Hires but specifically prohibited re-verifying people thereafter. Look on your official bulletin board at UPS and you should see a light blue poster saying that the employer may not verify before actually hireing a job applicant, and cannot re-verify current employees!!!!!!! The verification on New Hires hired after November 1986 must be kept for three years. However, recent government contracts contain a clause that all employees who may handle the contracted items must be currently verified. Thus, although the government requires it, it is only a requirement if UPS voluntarily applies for and gets a government contract. It's like the requirements to recite all that safety dribble. The government requires it only because UPS was repeatedly caught violating OSHA regulations, was fined heavily, and UPS cut "plea-deals" known as a Corporate Settlement Agreements, to lessen the fines and the extent of the charges. Obligating us to recite the safety dribble gets UPS off the hook, or at least on a smaller hook. So when UPS says, "It's not us, it's the government making us do it," that's not quite true. Since applying for a government contract is an [U]optional[/U] thing, if any bargaining unit member looses their job, they may have a case that UPS got the government contract without negotiating with the Union over the adverse effects as labor law requires. My concern is not for true illegals that snuck across the border, but for long time residents and union members with strong cases to make. [/QUOTE]
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