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<blockquote data-quote="Commercial Inside Release" data-source="post: 5135533" data-attributes="member: 93336">Sure, they&#039;ve heard of it... Just like they&#039;ve heard of COVID. Is COVID under control, despite all the world&#039;s effort? The reason botulinum is contained on Earth, is because it is exposed to oxygen in the daily activities of man, because we are constantly &quot;bathing&quot; in oxygen.On Mars, with an atmosphere too low in pressure to ever boil water, every single thing you come in contact with will have to be autoclaved or pressure cooked. An inconvenience, people like Musk and his &quot;followers&quot; (for lack of a better description,) doubt have the fortitude to maintain in their daily lives. Only semi-crazy hard azzes that actually enjoy suffering, scrounging, and putting up with mountains of $#!+ just to survive, have any chance of lasting a modest amount of time up there. That doesn&#039;t sound like Elon, and a bunch of spoiled yuppies that have never personally done anything, to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Commercial Inside Release, post: 5135533, member: 93336"] Sure, they've heard of it... Just like they've heard of COVID. Is COVID under control, despite all the world's effort? The reason botulinum is contained on Earth, is because it is exposed to oxygen in the daily activities of man, because we are constantly "bathing" in oxygen. On Mars, with an atmosphere too low in pressure to ever boil water, every single thing you come in contact with will have to be autoclaved or pressure cooked. An inconvenience, people like Musk and his "followers" (for lack of a better description,) doubt have the fortitude to maintain in their daily lives. Only semi-crazy hard azzes that actually enjoy suffering, scrounging, and putting up with mountains of $#!+ just to survive, have any chance of lasting a modest amount of time up there. That doesn't sound like Elon, and a bunch of spoiled yuppies that have never personally done anything, to me. [/QUOTE]

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