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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rickyb" data-source="post: 5882396" data-attributes="member: 56035">ill take 2 more cities to give you an example how theyre using high speed trains instead of cars.  between alicante spain and murcia, its the same speed to drive in no rush hour as it is to take the train in rush hour.  so the train is still faster.  55 min drive no rush hour.  the high speed train goes 155 mph.if i add random destinations in both cities, then public transport is 30 minutes slowerif its a 55 minute drive, that means they could have a high speed train in my metro area.Huesca, Spain and zaragoza is a 55 min car ride no rush hour and the train in rush hour is 45 minutes.  the train goes 135 mph.</blockquote>