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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 855901" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>First off, good find Tooner. But let's back away for the moment and pose this question. As a private person working with a larger group of private persons, what would we need to do if we want to send guns to Mexico and then track them. Very generally speaking, we'd need a certain amount of guns that we could track and locate. Now a gun in the realm of James Bond where you follow it on screen from the car (the little beep) seems a bit far fetched but obviously some unique identifier would come into play. To do this, I can't see the need for $10mil must less $15 or $40 mil. </p><p></p><p>But even greater is the deeper moral question. If you believe certain persons are evil, would do mortal harm to innocent persons, how could you in the name of law enforcement, put the actual means to do harm in their hands? Would the public condone giving Charles Manson a knife on the premise to determine what he would do and how would he act if he got one? Granted, law enforcement would learn in observing him, science I'm sure would learn more about the human mind but is that the right way to go about it? </p><p></p><p>I think the US Gov't has dumped way more guns into Mexico than we even realize as several years ago when the allegations of guns in Mexico were coming from American gunstores, there were claims that the guns spoke of were in fact coming into the drug world via rotten Mexican military who were on the take and their gunsources were in fact the US Gov't under the good neighbor policy. When a large cach of weapons were seized in various raids and law enforcement actions, several gunowner advocacy groups asked to obtain the weapon serial number and then back trace to the source which seems very reasonable. If a gun store is doing this, shut em' down. However both the Mexican and US gov't strongly opposed public disclosure of weapon serial numbers at all levels but the question is why?</p><p></p><p>I think Project Gunrunner is just the tip of a <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/gaddy/gaddy54.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">very, very dirty iceburg</span></a>. If we would sell weapons and even <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Western_help_with_Iraq.27s_WMD_program" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">WMD capability to Iraq and Saddam Hussein</span></a> in the 1980's to support him in his war with Iran, is it that farfetched to think out gov't or persons within out gov't for self interest reasons would not sell guns to Mexican drug gangs? And while you are at it, sometime google "CIA DRUGS" and just watch where <a href="http://jeanclaudesinfowar.blogspot.com/2010/10/central-intelligence-agency-controls.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">that search will lead you!</span></a></p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 855901, member: 2189"] First off, good find Tooner. But let's back away for the moment and pose this question. As a private person working with a larger group of private persons, what would we need to do if we want to send guns to Mexico and then track them. Very generally speaking, we'd need a certain amount of guns that we could track and locate. Now a gun in the realm of James Bond where you follow it on screen from the car (the little beep) seems a bit far fetched but obviously some unique identifier would come into play. To do this, I can't see the need for $10mil must less $15 or $40 mil. But even greater is the deeper moral question. If you believe certain persons are evil, would do mortal harm to innocent persons, how could you in the name of law enforcement, put the actual means to do harm in their hands? Would the public condone giving Charles Manson a knife on the premise to determine what he would do and how would he act if he got one? Granted, law enforcement would learn in observing him, science I'm sure would learn more about the human mind but is that the right way to go about it? I think the US Gov't has dumped way more guns into Mexico than we even realize as several years ago when the allegations of guns in Mexico were coming from American gunstores, there were claims that the guns spoke of were in fact coming into the drug world via rotten Mexican military who were on the take and their gunsources were in fact the US Gov't under the good neighbor policy. When a large cach of weapons were seized in various raids and law enforcement actions, several gunowner advocacy groups asked to obtain the weapon serial number and then back trace to the source which seems very reasonable. If a gun store is doing this, shut em' down. However both the Mexican and US gov't strongly opposed public disclosure of weapon serial numbers at all levels but the question is why? I think Project Gunrunner is just the tip of a [URL="http://www.lewrockwell.com/gaddy/gaddy54.html"][COLOR=#ff0000]very, very dirty iceburg[/COLOR][/URL]. If we would sell weapons and even [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Western_help_with_Iraq.27s_WMD_program"][COLOR=#ff0000]WMD capability to Iraq and Saddam Hussein[/COLOR][/URL] in the 1980's to support him in his war with Iran, is it that farfetched to think out gov't or persons within out gov't for self interest reasons would not sell guns to Mexican drug gangs? And while you are at it, sometime google "CIA DRUGS" and just watch where [URL="http://jeanclaudesinfowar.blogspot.com/2010/10/central-intelligence-agency-controls.html"][COLOR=#ff0000]that search will lead you![/COLOR][/URL] :wink2: [/QUOTE]
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