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<blockquote data-quote="notlookingback" data-source="post: 439940" data-attributes="member: 18185"><p>Drivers, try not to lay too much hate on the PT Supes posting here. In my experience, the PT Supes were the only ones who really gave a damn about trying to improve your day-to-day load quality. The FT Preload Supes and Preload manager don't give a damn. When your center manager pushes them on load quality and misloads, they push back on AM time and send-agains. Since no one wants to take that fight to the DM's office, nothing gets done.</p><p></p><p>Your PT Supe is the one who knows about the loaders' girlfriend, child support, community college, and car repair problems. Your PT Supe is the one who tries to keep kids in a $9.50/hour job when they could leave UPS. Your PT Supe will be loading eight trucks from two cages when that employee leaves. The job sucks, the money's not worth it, but it is damn good work experience.</p><p></p><p>A good relationship with your PT Supe is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for you getting decent load quality from preload. Your PT Supe probably has received no training from their FT'ers. That's just the way it is.</p><p></p><p></p><p>To the PT Supes:</p><p></p><p>Every manger who is struggling gets the conference call beating. It goes something like this (simplified version): "What's so difficult? The bottom line is that you're not controlling your operation. Look at your X from last week. That's unacceptable. You need to have zero X for the next month."</p><p></p><p>Your preload manager got the PTRS overtime lecture. These sorts of things only happen when a manager is already on the <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> list. The successful managers are given a little leeway to run their operation. The manager of a preload that's hitting its PKG plan and its misload run rate does not have a zero-tolerance PTRS overtime limit.</p><p></p><p>Your manager is struggling. He may be on a 30-60-90. Either way, his boss is looking to fire/demote/transfer him. Your manager has made the gamble that he can get you to falsify your time cards, and then bully you into keeping it hidden. Your manager is desperate, but he's 20-years into his career and knows he's stuck at UPS for life. He is screwing you over to save his ass.</p><p></p><p>If your manager's manager was aware of this, your manager would be fired. You have the power in this situation. Don't be insubordinate. Don't be pushy. Don't falsify your records. Ask for a coach/counsel on how you are to manage your operation during the 5.5 hour daily allotment. Get clarification whether or not you are required to punch out of PTRS at 5.5 hours. Starting taking home a print screen of your time card every Friday.</p><p></p><p>Have this conversation in the presence of your immediate FT Supe and his/her Preload manager. You're covering your bases.</p><p></p><p>I've never seen anyone in UPS managment terminated for performance (they do get demoted, though). I have seen several terminated for dishonesty. Someone is giving your manager enough rope to hang himself with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="notlookingback, post: 439940, member: 18185"] Drivers, try not to lay too much hate on the PT Supes posting here. In my experience, the PT Supes were the only ones who really gave a damn about trying to improve your day-to-day load quality. The FT Preload Supes and Preload manager don't give a damn. When your center manager pushes them on load quality and misloads, they push back on AM time and send-agains. Since no one wants to take that fight to the DM's office, nothing gets done. Your PT Supe is the one who knows about the loaders' girlfriend, child support, community college, and car repair problems. Your PT Supe is the one who tries to keep kids in a $9.50/hour job when they could leave UPS. Your PT Supe will be loading eight trucks from two cages when that employee leaves. The job sucks, the money's not worth it, but it is damn good work experience. A good relationship with your PT Supe is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for you getting decent load quality from preload. Your PT Supe probably has received no training from their FT'ers. That's just the way it is. To the PT Supes: Every manger who is struggling gets the conference call beating. It goes something like this (simplified version): "What's so difficult? The bottom line is that you're not controlling your operation. Look at your X from last week. That's unacceptable. You need to have zero X for the next month." Your preload manager got the PTRS overtime lecture. These sorts of things only happen when a manager is already on the :censored::censored::censored::censored::censored: list. The successful managers are given a little leeway to run their operation. The manager of a preload that's hitting its PKG plan and its misload run rate does not have a zero-tolerance PTRS overtime limit. Your manager is struggling. He may be on a 30-60-90. Either way, his boss is looking to fire/demote/transfer him. Your manager has made the gamble that he can get you to falsify your time cards, and then bully you into keeping it hidden. Your manager is desperate, but he's 20-years into his career and knows he's stuck at UPS for life. He is screwing you over to save his ass. If your manager's manager was aware of this, your manager would be fired. You have the power in this situation. Don't be insubordinate. Don't be pushy. Don't falsify your records. Ask for a coach/counsel on how you are to manage your operation during the 5.5 hour daily allotment. Get clarification whether or not you are required to punch out of PTRS at 5.5 hours. Starting taking home a print screen of your time card every Friday. Have this conversation in the presence of your immediate FT Supe and his/her Preload manager. You're covering your bases. I've never seen anyone in UPS managment terminated for performance (they do get demoted, though). I have seen several terminated for dishonesty. Someone is giving your manager enough rope to hang himself with. [/QUOTE]
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