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PA- Part Time Sups, I can't be the only one??
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<blockquote data-quote="Local804guy4life" data-source="post: 797361" data-attributes="member: 31217"><p>I think you made a big mistake bro. Going into management is not a good idea. I respect the reason you stated for doing so but I have seen UPS management destroy way to many people. If you stayed in the union you more then likely would have been a driver by now making top pay. Also, you would have union protection and would have normal working hours. I can tell you horror stories about what goes on in my building with management. Let's start with the part time supervisors. Word is getting out how bad UPS treats their management people. In my building we are down about eight part time supervisors. UPS simply cannot get anyone in the building to take the job. They are literally begging the new hires who don't know any better to become supervisors. They are even hiring people with no UPS experience off the street to become supervisors. If you read the UPS policy book that's totally against policy. " We promote from within". Promotions for part time supervisors are happening a little quicker now because a lot of full time supervisors are quitting. In the Nassau Hub we have had four full time supervisors quit in about six months. Even with that being the case it could take up to ten years to get a promotion to full time supervisor. If you are unlucky enough to get promoted to a full time supervisor here is what you can look forward to. Horrible working hours, 13-14 hour work days with no OT pay, no official break, and getting abused mentally and physically every single day of your life. The full timers in my building are all under a doctors care and medication for stress. It's something out of a third world country how they get treated. </p><p> </p><p>I'm not preaching to you here. I am not saying the way I chose is the only way. I can only talk to you from experience and what I've seen. Yes my union is corrupt and all of that. The union has it's share of bullcrap too. But by far it's the lesser of two evils in my opinion. My union also does a lot of good too. As does UPS. I am thankful to UPS for having a job and giving me and my wife and children benefits. However I simply cannot ignore how many lives I've seen UPS management destroy. And I regularly have face to face conversations with employees at work about this. I'm not some pro union anti management person. I have good working relationships with both sides. I had some great management bosses. And it hurt me to see how poorly ups treated them. Good luck dude.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Local804guy4life, post: 797361, member: 31217"] I think you made a big mistake bro. Going into management is not a good idea. I respect the reason you stated for doing so but I have seen UPS management destroy way to many people. If you stayed in the union you more then likely would have been a driver by now making top pay. Also, you would have union protection and would have normal working hours. I can tell you horror stories about what goes on in my building with management. Let's start with the part time supervisors. Word is getting out how bad UPS treats their management people. In my building we are down about eight part time supervisors. UPS simply cannot get anyone in the building to take the job. They are literally begging the new hires who don't know any better to become supervisors. They are even hiring people with no UPS experience off the street to become supervisors. If you read the UPS policy book that's totally against policy. " We promote from within". Promotions for part time supervisors are happening a little quicker now because a lot of full time supervisors are quitting. In the Nassau Hub we have had four full time supervisors quit in about six months. Even with that being the case it could take up to ten years to get a promotion to full time supervisor. If you are unlucky enough to get promoted to a full time supervisor here is what you can look forward to. Horrible working hours, 13-14 hour work days with no OT pay, no official break, and getting abused mentally and physically every single day of your life. The full timers in my building are all under a doctors care and medication for stress. It's something out of a third world country how they get treated. I'm not preaching to you here. I am not saying the way I chose is the only way. I can only talk to you from experience and what I've seen. Yes my union is corrupt and all of that. The union has it's share of bullcrap too. But by far it's the lesser of two evils in my opinion. My union also does a lot of good too. As does UPS. I am thankful to UPS for having a job and giving me and my wife and children benefits. However I simply cannot ignore how many lives I've seen UPS management destroy. And I regularly have face to face conversations with employees at work about this. I'm not some pro union anti management person. I have good working relationships with both sides. I had some great management bosses. And it hurt me to see how poorly ups treated them. Good luck dude. [/QUOTE]
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