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<blockquote data-quote="newfie" data-source="post: 2701670" data-attributes="member: 58700"><p>how do you define abuse. the conservative philosophy has always been that giving them support without making them earn it causes them to be lazy underachievers. As such they are abusers but not in the classic sense .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="newfie, post: 2701670, member: 58700"] how do you define abuse. the conservative philosophy has always been that giving them support without making them earn it causes them to be lazy underachievers. As such they are abusers but not in the classic sense . [/QUOTE]
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