Personal and Economic Freedom for Individuals

[Catatonic]

A Libertarian values and believes in personal and economic freedom for individuals.

I ran across this definition and I like it better than the old moniker "fiscally conservative and socially liberal".

I particularly like it because I don't like being defined by alternate names for Democrats and Republicans.

What say you? BTW - who use to say, "What say you?"
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[Babagounj]

Line from the newer version of Battlestar Galactica .

 

[TearsInRain]

socially conservative, fiscally liberal (fascist)
grew up conservative, went liberal, then started sliding fascist when i hit 29

spineless liberals and fatcat conservatives equally sicken me

 

[Turdferguson]

 

[Turdferguson]

 

[Turdferguson]

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

A Libertarian values and believes in personal and economic freedom for individuals.

I ran across this definition and I like it better than the old moniker "fiscally conservative and socially liberal".

I particularly like it because I don't like being defined by alternate names for Democrats and Republicans.

What say you?

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BTW - who use to say, "What say you?"
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Bill O'Riley.

 

[bbsam]

I think it doesn't matter what words you try to use. Literally everyone from Lady Gaga to Rush Limbaugh could claim the title "Libertarian" with that definition.

 

[Catatonic]

I think it doesn't matter what words you try to use. Literally everyone from Lady Gaga to Rush Limbaugh could claim the title "Libertarian" with that definition.

OH!
I have to listen to Rush the next time he expresses the right of people to ingest cannabis.

 

[bbsam]

OH!
I have to listen to Rush the next time he expresses the right of people to ingest cannabis.

You might not hear that. But he might go on a rant about religious people's rights being under assault.

Or school choice.

Or freedom of speech for corporate entities.

Just because the rights he focuses on aren't the same as yours doesn't mean he can't be the "force for liberty".

 

[Catatonic]

You might not hear that. But he might go on a rant about religious people's rights being under assault.

Or school choice.

Or freedom of speech for corporate entities.

Just because the rights he focuses on aren't the same as yours doesn't mean he can't be the "force for liberty".

I don't consider any of those as "individual's economic or personal freedoms" except maybe the religious thingy.

 

[bbsam]

I don't consider any of those as "individual's economic or personal freedoms" except maybe the religious thingy.

I rather agree with you. I do know a lot of people who do though. Rand Paul might be one.

 

[Catatonic]

I rather agree with you. I do know a lot of people who do though. Rand Paul might be one.

Rand is in a hard place ... meshing with Republicans requires some compromises.
That is the great thing about being a political pundit or observer ... you can be idealistic without any consequences.

 

[bbsam]

Rand is in a hard place ... meshing with Republicans requires some compromises.
That is the great thing about being a political pundit or observer ... you can be idealistic without any consequences.

Yeah. That's the problem that every idealistic politician has. The problem I have with the ones like Paul is that they almost always (in moments that really matter) find a way to come down on the side with hardline conservatives.

 

[Catatonic]

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Nice spin for the unthinking masses.
Libertarians promote others helping each other out ... the way we did when America was great.
Now, every one <sic> wants the government to take money confiscated from other individuals to give to them.

BTW, this is one of my strongest beliefs ... "one makes choices and it defines their life".

 

[Catatonic]

Yeah. That's the problem that every idealistic politician has. The problem I have with the ones like Paul is that they almost always (in moments that really matter) find a way to come down on the side with hardline conservatives.

I never perceived Rand Paul's political persona being idealistic ... now his Dad is idealistic.

I would say Bernie as a Socialist also does not idealistic politics ... he always meshed in with the Democrats, even when it did not mesh with his political idealism.

 

[Catatonic]

socially conservative, fiscally liberal (fascist)
grew up conservative, went liberal, then started sliding fascist when i hit 29

spineless liberals and fatcat conservatives equally sicken me

I've never met an individual that expressed this combination of political approaches.
It's the worst aspect of Republicans and Democrats in my mind and I always considered this combination as being 'mutually exclusive'.
I will pay more attention to your political posts in the future as a study of a political aberration.

I never paid much attention to Gen Franco in Spain but do you know if your beliefs relate to his approach?

 

[Turdferguson]

BTW, this is one of my strongest beliefs ... "one makes choices and it defines their life".

And some have choices forced upon them that you could never imagine having to deal with.

 

[Catatonic]

And some have choices forced upon them that you could never imagine having to deal with.

People can pull themselves up through their efforts.
There are many things one can't imagine until they experience them.

You mean like my mother who was born blind in a clapboard house with no electricity or running water?
Neither her mother nor father could read.
She worked hard and got a scholarship to the Alabama School for the Blind.
My father was blind too.
I observed how my parents and even me were denigrated, shunned and even cursed at.
Being born Black or Blind in America has it's challenges.

I can't begin to tell you all the bigoted and ignorant things said to me in relation to my achievements in spite of having Blind parents.

 

[Catatonic]

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Disinformation your specialty?