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<blockquote data-quote="Sportello" data-source="post: 2701671" data-attributes="member: 55299"><p>I'm too tired to fix the formatting, but I'm black & blue, [USER=7966][COLOR=#ff0000]@Monkey Butt[/COLOR][/USER]<span style="color: #ff0000"> is red</span>, as it should be.</p><p></p><p>Mods, feel free to fix <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>I believe that all citizens should pay taxes if they make over a living wage. <span style="color: #ff0000">I agree</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff4d4d">Those taxes should provide for their health and security.</span> <span style="color: #ff0000">I don't agree with that only ... there are many things those taxes should be used for.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #0000ff">If everyone is healthy and safe, there is little else that is needed</span>.</span></p><p>I believe all citizens should be given a free education to the extent they can benefit from it - <span style="color: #ff0000">I don't agree with that if you mean in a school where one gets a degree or certificate. I believe citizens should have access to education (beyond High School) if it is to benefit and serve the needs of society. Anything that can be learned in schools can be learned by the individual going to the library or go on-line.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #0000ff">I'd like there to be doctors. I think we really agree on this.</span></span></p><p>I believe all citizens should have free, pure water and healthcare - <span style="color: #ff0000">Water - Nope ... I live out in the country to be away from others. I don't think the government should spend hundreds of thousands of dollars just so I can have pure clean water.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Healthcare: Yep, I believe in free reasonable healthcare for both physical and mental health concerns.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #0000ff">I didn't say water in the desert or downstream from the hog farm. i just said clean water...think Flint, or South Side Chicago. Our villages, towns and cities should provide water and it should be free to the point of sustaining a healthy life. I don't know offhand how many gallons/day that is, but whatever it is, ....free.</span></span></p><p>I believe those who are wealthy beyond their <strong>needs </strong>should contribute to the welfare of those less fortunate, according to their<strong> means</strong> - <span style="color: #ff0000">Not hardly and what the heck are needs and means?<span style="color: #0000ff"> Needs are food, clothing, domicile, means is the excess wealth one has accumulated through innovation</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">I believe that taxes should be progressive and should be used for the improvement of society.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #0000ff">Agree</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">I believe that no taxes of any kind should be capped.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #0059b3">Agree</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Wealth should be taxed as well as income.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #0059b3">To what extent? Should I be taxed over and over because I managed to save a certain amount of capital until I have nothing?</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">The fact that wealth is not taxed is a big problem.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #0059b3">If I saved a million dollars, and have held onto that in my old age, should I be taxed 10% ($100k) a year until my savings are gone?</span></span></p><p>I believe we should engage in equal trade. <span style="color: #ff0000">OK, I guess. Not sure what that means. I do believe in reciprocal tariffs if that's what you mean.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #0059b3">No, I mean that trade should be free between equal partners (US=Great Britain), but tilted to the advantage of unequal partners (US>Viet Nam)</span></span></p><p>I believe we should strive to make all humans equal in their living conditions. <span style="color: #ff0000">Nope, I find that very idea very unworkable and will destroy initiative. Maybe we are not that far apart on this idea if the concept was expanded to understand what elements should be equal.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #0059b3">You piss enough people off, they gonna come after you. I think that there is an equilibrium where we *might* all get by. That's all anyone should be looking for, to just get by... </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Thank you for the sharing your beliefs!</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">They stimulated me and I got a lot of satisfaction in thinking through your ideas through and comparing to my beliefs.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">We should get together over a few drinks and have a lively discussion.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0059b3">I had to blow though your part of the country last time South, didn't have a minute to spare, and was not fond of Atlanta area traffic, even though I stayed outside of town.</span> <span style="color: #0059b3">I don't think we are that far apart. I'd like to think we are both looking to improve the world for our offspring, and like a little Beefheart on the side.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sportello, post: 2701671, member: 55299"] I'm too tired to fix the formatting, but I'm black & blue, [USER=7966][COLOR=#ff0000]@Monkey Butt[/COLOR][/USER][COLOR=#ff0000] is red[/COLOR], as it should be. Mods, feel free to fix ;) I believe that all citizens should pay taxes if they make over a living wage. [COLOR=#ff0000]I agree[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff4d4d]Those taxes should provide for their health and security.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]I don't agree with that only ... there are many things those taxes should be used for. [COLOR=#0000ff]If everyone is healthy and safe, there is little else that is needed[/COLOR].[/COLOR] I believe all citizens should be given a free education to the extent they can benefit from it - [COLOR=#ff0000]I don't agree with that if you mean in a school where one gets a degree or certificate. I believe citizens should have access to education (beyond High School) if it is to benefit and serve the needs of society. Anything that can be learned in schools can be learned by the individual going to the library or go on-line. [COLOR=#0000ff]I'd like there to be doctors. I think we really agree on this.[/COLOR][/COLOR] I believe all citizens should have free, pure water and healthcare - [COLOR=#ff0000]Water - Nope ... I live out in the country to be away from others. I don't think the government should spend hundreds of thousands of dollars just so I can have pure clean water. Healthcare: Yep, I believe in free reasonable healthcare for both physical and mental health concerns. [COLOR=#0000ff]I didn't say water in the desert or downstream from the hog farm. i just said clean water...think Flint, or South Side Chicago. Our villages, towns and cities should provide water and it should be free to the point of sustaining a healthy life. I don't know offhand how many gallons/day that is, but whatever it is, ....free.[/COLOR][/COLOR] I believe those who are wealthy beyond their [B]needs [/B]should contribute to the welfare of those less fortunate, according to their[B] means[/B] - [COLOR=#ff0000]Not hardly and what the heck are needs and means?[COLOR=#0000ff] Needs are food, clothing, domicile, means is the excess wealth one has accumulated through innovation[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]I believe that taxes should be progressive and should be used for the improvement of society. [COLOR=#0000ff]Agree[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]I believe that no taxes of any kind should be capped. [COLOR=#0059b3]Agree[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]Wealth should be taxed as well as income. [COLOR=#0059b3]To what extent? Should I be taxed over and over because I managed to save a certain amount of capital until I have nothing?[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000] The fact that wealth is not taxed is a big problem.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000][COLOR=#0059b3]If I saved a million dollars, and have held onto that in my old age, should I be taxed 10% ($100k) a year until my savings are gone?[/COLOR][/COLOR] I believe we should engage in equal trade. [COLOR=#ff0000]OK, I guess. Not sure what that means. I do believe in reciprocal tariffs if that's what you mean. [COLOR=#0059b3]No, I mean that trade should be free between equal partners (US=Great Britain), but tilted to the advantage of unequal partners (US>Viet Nam)[/COLOR][/COLOR] I believe we should strive to make all humans equal in their living conditions. [COLOR=#ff0000]Nope, I find that very idea very unworkable and will destroy initiative. Maybe we are not that far apart on this idea if the concept was expanded to understand what elements should be equal. [COLOR=#0059b3]You piss enough people off, they gonna come after you. I think that there is an equilibrium where we *might* all get by. That's all anyone should be looking for, to just get by... [/COLOR][/COLOR] [SIZE=5][COLOR=#ff0000] [B]Thank you for the sharing your beliefs![/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=#ff0000]They stimulated me and I got a lot of satisfaction in thinking through your ideas through and comparing to my beliefs. We should get together over a few drinks and have a lively discussion.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0059b3]I had to blow though your part of the country last time South, didn't have a minute to spare, and was not fond of Atlanta area traffic, even though I stayed outside of town.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0059b3]I don't think we are that far apart. I'd like to think we are both looking to improve the world for our offspring, and like a little Beefheart on the side.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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