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<blockquote data-quote="iloadthetruck" data-source="post: 75083" data-attributes="member: 885"><p>I agree, "slamming" may not be the best choice. However, for people who work for UPS, the it's constantly negative, non-constructive commentary that really doesn't help make UPS any more flexible at the bargaining table. I'm fine with the informational picketing, but when they start frightening customers by sending out a press release every week about how they're going on strike (which, as of today, is illegal, and will be into the future) and placing ads in major business publications, I just don't see that as productive for either side. Should we reward them for their actions by giving them a raise?</p><p></p><p>Notice how the pilots are the ones issuing pr, while UPS just blithely idles along? They know the pilots' actions are speaking for themselves.</p><p></p><p>And I was right - the mediator put the whole session on indefinite recess.</p><p></p><p>Look at the MTA strike in New York as a very recent, very parallel example. Their workers were already well-paid, well-pensioned, and well-insured. They wanted more because the MTA was running with a surplus. (We all know how the government treats surpluses... not very well. So the chance of that existing and them getting a piece seems very low.) The pilots are using the same argument - UPS is doing well so we should be rewarded. Unlike the MTA employees, the pilots had dozens of chances to join in on the "success" be it investing in a 401k or getting stock, those are all viable options for anyone.</p><p></p><p>I need to read up on this some more, it's been a while, but again, comparing this to another strike, a long time ago, a lot of people agreed with Reagan's decision to fire the air traffic controllers. Hopefully that won't happen with us, because it would be a shame to be another company putting air personnel on the street.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iloadthetruck, post: 75083, member: 885"] I agree, "slamming" may not be the best choice. However, for people who work for UPS, the it's constantly negative, non-constructive commentary that really doesn't help make UPS any more flexible at the bargaining table. I'm fine with the informational picketing, but when they start frightening customers by sending out a press release every week about how they're going on strike (which, as of today, is illegal, and will be into the future) and placing ads in major business publications, I just don't see that as productive for either side. Should we reward them for their actions by giving them a raise? Notice how the pilots are the ones issuing pr, while UPS just blithely idles along? They know the pilots' actions are speaking for themselves. And I was right - the mediator put the whole session on indefinite recess. Look at the MTA strike in New York as a very recent, very parallel example. Their workers were already well-paid, well-pensioned, and well-insured. They wanted more because the MTA was running with a surplus. (We all know how the government treats surpluses... not very well. So the chance of that existing and them getting a piece seems very low.) The pilots are using the same argument - UPS is doing well so we should be rewarded. Unlike the MTA employees, the pilots had dozens of chances to join in on the "success" be it investing in a 401k or getting stock, those are all viable options for anyone. I need to read up on this some more, it's been a while, but again, comparing this to another strike, a long time ago, a lot of people agreed with Reagan's decision to fire the air traffic controllers. Hopefully that won't happen with us, because it would be a shame to be another company putting air personnel on the street. [/QUOTE]
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