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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1292852" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>TOS made the mistake of advancing an idea and then assigning it to a group collectively. Jews, as a collective doing this as per his assertion? No of course not. Was this a purposeful intent on his part? I'm sure many here will assert it is.</p><p></p><p>However, there are factions and concerns of Israeli political interests beyond the larger collective known as jews who are advancing the idea the plane will be loaded with nukes and flown into a target within Israel but then how many Americans are also thinking in their minds this plane could be used for some kind of 9/11 repeat? Based on what we know and the known capabilities of the aircraft, both scenarios have serious problems if one were to think them out.</p><p></p><p>I would also add that this theory of an aircraft loaded with nukes intended for Israel would likely have a more broad appeal among certain christian factions who hold a certain apocalyptic POV than it does as a mass appeal to jews themselves. I would also argue this christian faction may actually outnumber those jews who feel the same and odds are there may be members here who subscribe to such end time visions. You may even be one of them yourself. </p><p></p><p>This christian belief would also IMO kneecap the assertion of TOS that this is a "jews only" club. However, it can be said that the book upon which they base their belief is alleged to have been written by jewish authors so in some sense, TOS on a certain level might have a point. </p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p><p></p><p>As to group thinking or collective assignment, I'll turn this back on you, if one were to have a reasonable and honest criticism of the State of Israel or even a criticism of jewish practice or custom, does this make one a Nazi? If so, I know many so-called jews who fit in as critics of either or both and thus if your claim of Nazi be true, they themselves by your collective default and assignment would also be Nazis. Some of the <a href="http://www.truetorahjews.org/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>best critics</strong></span></a> of Israel and Zionism have come from jews themselves and in some cases, very devout practicing jews.</p><p></p><p>Because one practices collective thought and group assignment doesn't mean you have to leap into a fire others started. Or continue to flame!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1292852, member: 2189"] TOS made the mistake of advancing an idea and then assigning it to a group collectively. Jews, as a collective doing this as per his assertion? No of course not. Was this a purposeful intent on his part? I'm sure many here will assert it is. However, there are factions and concerns of Israeli political interests beyond the larger collective known as jews who are advancing the idea the plane will be loaded with nukes and flown into a target within Israel but then how many Americans are also thinking in their minds this plane could be used for some kind of 9/11 repeat? Based on what we know and the known capabilities of the aircraft, both scenarios have serious problems if one were to think them out. I would also add that this theory of an aircraft loaded with nukes intended for Israel would likely have a more broad appeal among certain christian factions who hold a certain apocalyptic POV than it does as a mass appeal to jews themselves. I would also argue this christian faction may actually outnumber those jews who feel the same and odds are there may be members here who subscribe to such end time visions. You may even be one of them yourself. This christian belief would also IMO kneecap the assertion of TOS that this is a "jews only" club. However, it can be said that the book upon which they base their belief is alleged to have been written by jewish authors so in some sense, TOS on a certain level might have a point. :wink2: As to group thinking or collective assignment, I'll turn this back on you, if one were to have a reasonable and honest criticism of the State of Israel or even a criticism of jewish practice or custom, does this make one a Nazi? If so, I know many so-called jews who fit in as critics of either or both and thus if your claim of Nazi be true, they themselves by your collective default and assignment would also be Nazis. Some of the [URL='http://www.truetorahjews.org/'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]best critics[/B][/COLOR][/URL] of Israel and Zionism have come from jews themselves and in some cases, very devout practicing jews. Because one practices collective thought and group assignment doesn't mean you have to leap into a fire others started. Or continue to flame! [/QUOTE]
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