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<blockquote data-quote="mary" data-source="post: 57037"><p>Okay - OK - First of all read my post...My husband does not work for UPS - I do. As far as being naive - I'm not. I am fully aware that some DHL and FedEx drivers are suing their respective companies because they want to be considered employees instead of contractors. That seems fair to me. Inside my own company I see what is going on as well. Because FedEx and DHL are doing it quicker and faster, we have been FORCED to 'respond'. It is not a position that this company is accustomed to. We have set the standards in this industry for so long now. </p><p> </p><p>Spent only one 7.75 hour day in a package car. Spent several years in a hub - 100+ degrees or alternately below zero degrees. And you're right - I cant do that til I'm 65 - so I went back to school and graduated. By the way UPS paid for that too. </p><p> </p><p>As for the connection between the war in Iraq, which is what I must assume you mean by the 'manufactured tragedy' and 'working drivers into the night' -- the connection is this: I thank God for my health, and that of my children, I thank God for the roof over my head, the air conditioning when I get home and the paycheck that makes those things we take for granted possible. Mostly I am thankful that I am neither a soldier in Iraq nor a Iraqi civilian living in a warzone. Some people have an uncanny knack for making themselves miserable. I learned alot of this stuff from a one time union man - my father -who lost his Teamsters job after 33 years - no pension - they moved his plant out of state...Now he's 64 - driving a delivery truck for $10. an hour with no retirement plans in sight. Want to talk about salary - I bet you can beat his - cant you Mr. Ok? Oh, and by the way - you beat mine too! No stock bonuses for me Mr. OK. By the way - I love your quote - life is too short.}}</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mary, post: 57037"] Okay - OK - First of all read my post...My husband does not work for UPS - I do. As far as being naive - I'm not. I am fully aware that some DHL and FedEx drivers are suing their respective companies because they want to be considered employees instead of contractors. That seems fair to me. Inside my own company I see what is going on as well. Because FedEx and DHL are doing it quicker and faster, we have been FORCED to 'respond'. It is not a position that this company is accustomed to. We have set the standards in this industry for so long now. Spent only one 7.75 hour day in a package car. Spent several years in a hub - 100+ degrees or alternately below zero degrees. And you're right - I cant do that til I'm 65 - so I went back to school and graduated. By the way UPS paid for that too. As for the connection between the war in Iraq, which is what I must assume you mean by the 'manufactured tragedy' and 'working drivers into the night' -- the connection is this: I thank God for my health, and that of my children, I thank God for the roof over my head, the air conditioning when I get home and the paycheck that makes those things we take for granted possible. Mostly I am thankful that I am neither a soldier in Iraq nor a Iraqi civilian living in a warzone. Some people have an uncanny knack for making themselves miserable. I learned alot of this stuff from a one time union man - my father -who lost his Teamsters job after 33 years - no pension - they moved his plant out of state...Now he's 64 - driving a delivery truck for $10. an hour with no retirement plans in sight. Want to talk about salary - I bet you can beat his - cant you Mr. Ok? Oh, and by the way - you beat mine too! No stock bonuses for me Mr. OK. By the way - I love your quote - life is too short.}} [/QUOTE]
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