Police State

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
This is the current state of the Democrat party.

Terrorists attack Israel murdering raping kidnapping women and children, and you don't know which side holds the moral high ground.

You ultra left extremists are the core of your party.
The goal of the socialist/communist party was to hijack a political party in America. I would say they’ve succeeded.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
This is the current state of the Democrat party.

Terrorists attack Israel murdering raping kidnapping women and children, and you don't know which side holds the moral high ground.

You ultra left extremists are the core of your party. Truly shocking how radical you are.
apparently the americans are slowly figuring out israel has been the instigator for all these decades
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Have the Jews been fighting Muslims for centuries? Nope. Hamas has in their charter to not only destroy Israel but to also kill all Jews worldwide. The recent slaughter was the worst single attack on Jews since the Holocaust. Israel it appears has decided to destroy Hamas once and for all. Will that stop Muslim attacks on Israel? They have Palestinians in the West Bank and Hezbollah to the north in Lebanon and Iran funding it all. Iran has pledged to destroy Israel. Why do you think they're developing a nuclear weapon? It doesn't matter about centuries of religious warfare. This is the here and now. It's about Israel's right to exist and the determination of others to end Israel's existence. But as usual you never miss a chance to slam religion.
"It doesn't matter about centuries of religious warfare" (LOL). It does matter because the hate goes back centuries along with the post WWII most egregious foreign policy blunder and that was to partition Palestine.
Israel if you noticed appears to have some reservations about taking on Hamas in a street fight now that Iran has made it clear that it's looking forward to getting into a full blown holy war with Israel and US aid has to make it through Congress and that's no longer a done deal.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
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Israel if you noticed appears to have some reservations about taking on Hamas in a street fight now that Iran has made it clear that it's looking forward to getting into a full blown holy war
Wrong.
Iran isn't interested in being involved other than funding the terrorists as they have been, with the help of Democrats.

Israel doesn't want a ground war because it doesn't want the ground. A lot of very stupid people are pretending this is about land.

Israel gave them the land. Israel gave them billions in aid. The Palestinians are terrorists. They used the land and the money to kill Jews. Because that's all they care about.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Wrong.
Iran isn't interested in being involved other than funding the terrorists as they have been, with the help of Democrats.

Israel doesn't want a ground war because it doesn't want the ground. A lot of very stupid people are pretending this is about land.

Israel gave them the land. Israel gave them billions in aid. The Palestinians are terrorists. They used the land and the money to kill Jews. Because that's all they care about.
It would appear that you didn't hear the threatening public comments made by a top Iranian official yesterday. They're just waiting for Israel to give Iran an excuse and an opportunity to jump into an all out Middle Eastern war.

Oh and by the way.....Israel does not have a constitution.
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
It would appear that you didn't hear the threatening public comments made by a top Iranian official yesterday. They're just waiting for Israel to give Iran an excuse and an opportunity to jump into an all out Middle Eastern war.

Oh and by the way.....Israel does not have a constitution.

Iran has to talk tough because their Hamas friends are about to be taken out by Israelis who are actually armed. They're not gonna sit there and say nothing about it and look impotent. But Iran's leaders know it could very well be the end for them if they did get into an all out war.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
It would appear that you didn't hear the threatening public comments made by a top Iranian official yesterday.
I did.
Comments like that are nothing new.

Apparently you blindly believe the bluster of authoritarians over your own country's military intelligence apparatus that says Iran isn't planning or even capable of getting involved.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
"It doesn't matter about centuries of religious warfare" (LOL). It does matter because the hate goes back centuries along with the post WWII most egregious foreign policy blunder and that was to partition Palestine.
Israel if you noticed appears to have some reservations about taking on Hamas in a street fight now that Iran has made it clear that it's looking forward to getting into a full blown holy war with Israel and US aid has to make it through Congress and that's no longer a done deal.
Israel has nukes. At least 90 and possibly hundreds. If Iran attacks Israel it would be the end of Iran.

The question is why are you so excited for the Muslims, rooting for them over Israel?
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
Israel has nukes. At least 90 and possibly hundreds. If Iran attacks Israel it would be the end of Iran.

The question is why are you so excited for the Muslims, rooting for them over Israel?
I don't think they would overfly Jordan, Saudi, Iraq with SNW's. events there now.

The world would not be kind to Israel. Just look at what/how they have been displaying crying muslim children and IDF in battle gear.

TNW's I definitely agree with if any large group or aggressors stepped foot on Israeli ground for the purposes of warfare.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Israel has nukes. At least 90 and possibly hundreds. If Iran attacks Israel it would be the end of Iran.

The question is why are you so excited for the Muslims, rooting for them over Israel?
The only player in this game I'm rooting for is the USA. What you're forgetting is that Russia is treaty bound to come to the aid of Iran....and Russia has nukes too.

This is the reason why Carter resisted demands for an invasion of Iran . An airborne invasion would have been a disaster due to the inability to get heavy weapons in sufficient quantities into the region quickly enough.

So why hasn't Israel stormed Gaza? Why is it holding back? The equipment and manpower are all in place so why are they just standing around?. Could Israel now be getting cold feet worried about what the Arab world's response might be or perhaps is harboring doubts about the American taxpayers willingness to foot the huge bill for the mountain of very expensive military equipment it will need to support a bloody house to house street fight?
 

qdg2

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apparently the americans are slowly figuring out israel has been the instigator for all these decades
You smear conservatives with Democrat feces. You do realize there are two USA's?

Instigator of what exactly? Defending against a stated goal of genocide(by muslims)?
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
The only player in this game I'm rooting for is the USA. What you're forgetting is that Russia is treaty bound to come to the aid of Iran....and Russia has nukes too.

This is the reason why Carter resisted demands for an invasion of Iran . An airborne invasion would have been a disaster due to the inability to get heavy weapons in sufficient quantities into the region quickly enough.

So why hasn't Israel stormed Gaza? Why is it holding back? The equipment and manpower are all in place so why are they just standing around?. Could Israel now be getting cold feet worried about what the Arab world's response might be or perhaps is harboring doubts about the American taxpayers willingness to foot the huge bill for the mountain of very expensive military equipment it will need to support a bloody house to house street fight?
No.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
The only player in this game I'm rooting for is the USA. What you're forgetting is that Russia is treaty bound to come to the aid of Iran....and Russia has nukes too.

This is the reason why Carter resisted demands for an invasion of Iran . An airborne invasion would have been a disaster due to the inability to get heavy weapons in sufficient quantities into the region quickly enough.

So why hasn't Israel stormed Gaza? Why is it holding back? The equipment and manpower are all in place so why are they just standing around?. Could Israel now be getting cold feet worried about what the Arab world's response might be or perhaps is harboring doubts about the American taxpayers willingness to foot the huge bill for the mountain of very expensive military equipment it will need to support a bloody house to house street fight?
What treaty has Russia signed to come to Iran's aid?

And you seem to forget how far we've come since Carter. Iraq demonstrated we can project power pretty much everywhere.

Israel's military is rated the world's 5th strongest. It isn't Ukraine.
 
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