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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 2668838" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>Your party has been reduced to a bunch of carpetbaggers totally beholden to extremist elements.  And no one is talking about forcing religion on anyone.  And where have I criticized or vilified Social Security or Medicare?  All I've said repeatedly is SS is the best idea Democrats have ever had, and in order for those programs to remain healthy we need to get control of our debt and rein it in.  And that will mean making hard choices.  If you don't like making hard choices then you shouldn't vote for people who spend $9 trillion in 8 years.  Then just maybe we'd have some breathing room and you could have the programs you want, but on a reasonable scale.  Now I'll sit back and watch you lie over and over about my views, which you've done repeatedly.</p></blockquote><p></p>