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<blockquote data-quote="bacha29" data-source="post: 2671970" data-attributes="member: 58386"><p>I live in coal country. The area has been strip mined and deep mined from one end to the next. When it comes to "reclaimed" strip mined land you simply will never again raise competitive yields on that land .It's too badly disturbed and it has to rain on it every other day if you want to grow anything at all. In addition the countless private and public water supplies that have been destroyed requiring finding new sources (if you're lucky) and laying down costly new water lines and pumping it for miles and most of the time at taxpayer expense. Thankfully over the past few years in my state alone 22,000 megawatts of coal fired electrical capacity have gone off line replaced with 22,000 megawatts of gas fired capacity. And the grid loves them because of the new technology these new pants offer combined with advances in storage batteries they can manage spikes much more easily. Coal as a cheaper energy source.? Four days after the last election First Energy who pretty much has a monopoly on the Mid Atlantic power market announced that they were leaving the deregulated electric market. Why? Their 1960's era and older coal fired plants can't compete with the new technology . The result? Whatever deregulated sector generation plants the grid doesn't need in the regulated market and cannot be sold to another utility ( and who would want them? ) will be shut down permanently.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bacha29, post: 2671970, member: 58386"] I live in coal country. The area has been strip mined and deep mined from one end to the next. When it comes to "reclaimed" strip mined land you simply will never again raise competitive yields on that land .It's too badly disturbed and it has to rain on it every other day if you want to grow anything at all. In addition the countless private and public water supplies that have been destroyed requiring finding new sources (if you're lucky) and laying down costly new water lines and pumping it for miles and most of the time at taxpayer expense. Thankfully over the past few years in my state alone 22,000 megawatts of coal fired electrical capacity have gone off line replaced with 22,000 megawatts of gas fired capacity. And the grid loves them because of the new technology these new pants offer combined with advances in storage batteries they can manage spikes much more easily. Coal as a cheaper energy source.? Four days after the last election First Energy who pretty much has a monopoly on the Mid Atlantic power market announced that they were leaving the deregulated electric market. Why? Their 1960's era and older coal fired plants can't compete with the new technology . The result? Whatever deregulated sector generation plants the grid doesn't need in the regulated market and cannot be sold to another utility ( and who would want them? ) will be shut down permanently. [/QUOTE]
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