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<blockquote data-quote="njdriver" data-source="post: 2677108" data-attributes="member: 4596"><p>Finally we agree on something. </p><p></p><p>Christianity and Humanism SHOULD be kept at home. Let parents instruct their children the way they want, and allow them to inculcate the values, or lack of them, to their offspring.</p><p></p><p>Contrary to popular belief, I am not against science. The fact you want to use the whole of science as a bulwark to your position is not persuasive to me. What I am against however is the notion that evolution is settled science. It may be to you and millions of others, BUT, there are also millions of others that don't believe that for myriad reasons. </p><p></p><p>Having evolution taught as settled in school is just as offensive to me as the teaching of Creation is offensive to you. The Humanist Association could have opted to go another route however. They could have continued to teach evolution as a theory alongside the story of Creation as a theory, and let each child have at least an option. That would have been an acceptable alternative that should have appeased both sides, but that's not what happened.</p><p></p><p>Lawsuits were brought seeking to remove Christianity from the public sphere, and they were successful. Under the Establishment Clause of the 1st Amendment, the state cannot hold one religion in higher regard than any other, or be seen as adopting a state religion. </p><p></p><p>I accept that ruling.</p><p></p><p>What I can't accept however, is how one religious belief as to how life began is allowed to be taught, and another excluded on the very grounds that Humanists sought to have their philosophy be ruled a religion in the first place.</p><p></p><p>Seems pretty exclusionary and purposefully disingenuous to me, and quite frankly sir, it is THAT incongruity that is absurd.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="njdriver, post: 2677108, member: 4596"] Finally we agree on something. Christianity and Humanism SHOULD be kept at home. Let parents instruct their children the way they want, and allow them to inculcate the values, or lack of them, to their offspring. Contrary to popular belief, I am not against science. The fact you want to use the whole of science as a bulwark to your position is not persuasive to me. What I am against however is the notion that evolution is settled science. It may be to you and millions of others, BUT, there are also millions of others that don't believe that for myriad reasons. Having evolution taught as settled in school is just as offensive to me as the teaching of Creation is offensive to you. The Humanist Association could have opted to go another route however. They could have continued to teach evolution as a theory alongside the story of Creation as a theory, and let each child have at least an option. That would have been an acceptable alternative that should have appeased both sides, but that's not what happened. Lawsuits were brought seeking to remove Christianity from the public sphere, and they were successful. Under the Establishment Clause of the 1st Amendment, the state cannot hold one religion in higher regard than any other, or be seen as adopting a state religion. I accept that ruling. What I can't accept however, is how one religious belief as to how life began is allowed to be taught, and another excluded on the very grounds that Humanists sought to have their philosophy be ruled a religion in the first place. Seems pretty exclusionary and purposefully disingenuous to me, and quite frankly sir, it is THAT incongruity that is absurd. [/QUOTE]
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