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<blockquote data-quote="diesel96" data-source="post: 660519" data-attributes="member: 9859"><p>So pouring a little water over someones face is not torture because it doesn't constitute the threshold level of pain define by your dicitionairy.com. Constituted by taking the mental distress factor out of the equation of torture and dummy down this debate to just a question of a pain threshold. AV8, You can't dismiss mental distress from the act of torture, otherwise it's simply breaks down to hazing or training simulation.</p><p> </p><p> Suppose your captured, and you beg the enemy to stop inflicting phyiscal beatings on you. Then enemy says, "Ok" lets play a little game. How bout we play a little game of russian roulette everyday. "We will not lend one hand on you.....After a few days/weeks of near death experiences of blowing your own head off..... the enemy says "New Game"...let's play "decapitation simulation" for our wonderful studio audiences and websites carrying it live around the world on the internet...... And everyday they went as far as the actual act of carrying it out promising one time it will be for real...... Now phyiscal pain was not inflicted in each scenario, yet that doesn't meet your critiria of tortue, eventhough you'll be a mental wreck for the rest of your life if you are released...I think it's time to put down the Tom Clancy "Splinter Cell" novels and seperate us from the enemy...</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><strong>Sour grapes </strong></p><p></p><p>I visited my local Publix last night, and saw fruit I'd never seen before. They were listed as "Sour Grapes" at $1.29 per pound. They look like small champagne grapes, but are spaced further apart. They are green, and sour like a Willy Wonka candy. I ended up pairing them with some sweet fruit.</p><p>Does anyone have more knowledge on these types of grapes? Their actual name? Origin? Are they just normal grapes that aren't ripe? Google searches for 'sour grapes' find information on the idiom, but not the fruit.</p><p>Maybe I should google American Conservatives......</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="diesel96, post: 660519, member: 9859"] So pouring a little water over someones face is not torture because it doesn't constitute the threshold level of pain define by your dicitionairy.com. Constituted by taking the mental distress factor out of the equation of torture and dummy down this debate to just a question of a pain threshold. AV8, You can't dismiss mental distress from the act of torture, otherwise it's simply breaks down to hazing or training simulation. Suppose your captured, and you beg the enemy to stop inflicting phyiscal beatings on you. Then enemy says, "Ok" lets play a little game. How bout we play a little game of russian roulette everyday. "We will not lend one hand on you.....After a few days/weeks of near death experiences of blowing your own head off..... the enemy says "New Game"...let's play "decapitation simulation" for our wonderful studio audiences and websites carrying it live around the world on the internet...... And everyday they went as far as the actual act of carrying it out promising one time it will be for real...... Now phyiscal pain was not inflicted in each scenario, yet that doesn't meet your critiria of tortue, eventhough you'll be a mental wreck for the rest of your life if you are released...I think it's time to put down the Tom Clancy "Splinter Cell" novels and seperate us from the enemy... [B]Sour grapes [/B] I visited my local Publix last night, and saw fruit I'd never seen before. They were listed as "Sour Grapes" at $1.29 per pound. They look like small champagne grapes, but are spaced further apart. They are green, and sour like a Willy Wonka candy. I ended up pairing them with some sweet fruit. Does anyone have more knowledge on these types of grapes? Their actual name? Origin? Are they just normal grapes that aren't ripe? Google searches for 'sour grapes' find information on the idiom, but not the fruit. Maybe I should google American Conservatives...... [/QUOTE]
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