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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 662357" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Part 2</p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The CIA have been in country in Yemen now active for over a year and with <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">the cooperation of the Yemen gov’t so you’d think at over a year they’d have some intel on the local Al Qaeda situation. Now we are learning more and more that Mutallab was by no means an unknown to our gov’t and yet he seems to have been given the VIP treatment and to use the dude in the Miller High Life commercial, been allowed to go past all the “fuzzy ropes” that exist for the rest of us. Could it be that Yemen and Saudi along with a complicit CIA are using the Al Qaeda ruse to smoke screen the real intention of our recent intervention in Yemen and some measure of agent provocateur either Yemen, Saudi or dare I say it, CIA somehow paving the path for a patsy Mutallah and a very poorly constructed “condom bomb”? Why Yemen?</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Look at a world map. Yemen’s coastline is the Red Sea to the west and then the Arabian Sea and the Gulf of Aden along it’s southern coastline. Across the way is the Horn of Africa and Somalia but more importantly is the major global shipping lane Yemen borders so from a commercial/economic interest, this area in strategic purposes in very important and especially not only to the US but Europe as well.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">However, what would you say if President Obama came on TV and announced the US military will open a new military front in Yemen to defend Saudi Arabia’s border interests and Yemen Sunni gov’t interests? I’m guessing you and I would at least agree in this case that the lives of our men and women in uniform is way more valuable than that and not only no but hell no! If President Obama again came on TV but this time said that we are going into Yemen to make sure the commercial shipping lanes in the Gulf of Aden are secure, there might not be that much objection at least from the typical conservative crowd but it’d still be a tough sell especially to some segments of the democratic base although that base hasn’t objected to much when Obama has worn Bush’s big hat and 6 guns for effect so there you go. But the one thing that is the trump card is Al Qaeda. Conservatives think Al Qaeda is the asteroid of Armageddon fame while liberals fear Al Qaeda but they fear even more of not looking hawkish to the independent vote when the spin turns it that way. So now we need an Al Qaeda connection. All it takes if for a Saudi, Yemen operative to cull out the patsy and lay the groundwork and here we are. Imagine even further this past Sunday night when I watched 60 Minutes to see the Base Jumpers who use the wingsuits (that’s so cool) and I watch a CIA piece on the Afghan fight against Al Qaeda. You know, that place with only a handful at best still in country! How do I know it was a CIA story? The lead figure was a CIA operative and his Afghani counterpart but more so, in the story all the pictures were supplied by the CIA in an open admission in the story itself. </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">t was a very favorable piece to the CIA and the whole effort over there. Justified or not.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Dumb luck and just lucky timing? In and of itself, I’d totally agree but considering everything else taking place, it’s just too convenient for me and like the months notice the gov’t and CIA had on Mutallab, they had months to prepare this puff piece. And if you think that William Paley’s CBS and the CIA along with numerous other media outlets haven’t </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">w</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">orked hand and hand before, then Carl Bernstein in 1977’ would surely say to think again.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong><a href="http://danwismar.com/uploads/Bernstein%20-%20CIA%20and%20Media.htm" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #800080">http://danwismar.com/uploads/Bernstein%20-%20CIA%20and%20Media.htm</span></u></a> </strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">OK, he’s admitted to being Al Qaeda so that proves it. I’ll stipulate that in his mind he may think he’s Al Qaeda but 2 things to consider. It is possible to have pulled him in to something he thinks is Al Qaeda when in fact it is something of a different sort. Our gov’t both foreign and domestic actions have run cover ops before for various purposes and it’s possible this is no different. That aside, Al Qaeda (AQAP) has claimed responsibility that that settles it. I’d tend to agree but there is also more here as well. What is the source that AQAP is claiming responsibility for the Rubber bomber? Let’s look at some stories for a common source.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Here’s a BBC story <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8433151.stm" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #800080"><strong>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8433151.stm</strong></span></u></a><strong> and notice </strong>to the immediate right a picture of Mutallab with the bi-line IntelCenter. Down in the text of the story, it quotes IntelCenter pointing to AQAP in the attack. But is there more? How about Examiner.com and look at the phote and text at right. Again, IntelCenter is the source. What about MSN.com? and read the 2nd paragraph. IntelCenter again. Let’s consider a foreign news source like Taipai Times <a href="http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2009/12/30/2003462153" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #800080"><strong>http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2009/12/30/2003462153</strong></span></u></a> and even here IntelCenter is a source. Well just who is IntelCenter? Here’s Ben Venzke CEO of IntelCenter at their website.<a href="http://www.intelcenter.com/aboutus.html" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #800080"><strong>http://www.intelcenter.com/aboutus.html</strong></span></u></a>Also here’s a wiki piece on IntelCenter also<u> <span style="color: #800080"><strong><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IntelCenter" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IntelCenter</a></strong></span></u> Now because IntelCenter is a private company does or doesn’t mean a thing but it is fair to ask whose interest do they really serve? Would they tell a different story from those who hire them if the facts said such a thing? Can’t prove one way or the other but would it not also be wise on our parts to look for other independent sources to further confirm what IntelCenter is saying? Looking across the web at similar new stories, IntelCenter seems to have an almost exclusive monopoly on this one so in light of this fact alone, I’m not willing to agree the sky is falling just yet. Way to many other factors in the mix for me. Now you can call me wacky, you can say I’m looking at wacky news sources, etc. but the simple fact is the Mainstreet media sold out over the last 10 years, they sold out during Clinton, they sold out during Reagan and as Bernstein only hit the tip of the iceberg, they’ve been sold out all along.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">So go ahead and claim the sky is falling but I’m sitting this one out with a damn big grain of salt. If gov’t lied about healthcare, lied about the economic bailout, lied about global warming, lied about this and that, why then do they all of a sudden tell the truth now on this? A liar is a liar is a liar is a liar!</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000">The End!</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000">And all God's People said</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000">AMEN!</span></p><p></p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 662357, member: 2189"] Part 2 [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]The CIA have been in country in Yemen now active for over a year and with [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]the cooperation of the Yemen gov’t so you’d think at over a year they’d have some intel on the local Al Qaeda situation. Now we are learning more and more that Mutallab was by no means an unknown to our gov’t and yet he seems to have been given the VIP treatment and to use the dude in the Miller High Life commercial, been allowed to go past all the “fuzzy ropes” that exist for the rest of us. Could it be that Yemen and Saudi along with a complicit CIA are using the Al Qaeda ruse to smoke screen the real intention of our recent intervention in Yemen and some measure of agent provocateur either Yemen, Saudi or dare I say it, CIA somehow paving the path for a patsy Mutallah and a very poorly constructed “condom bomb”? Why Yemen?[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Look at a world map. Yemen’s coastline is the Red Sea to the west and then the Arabian Sea and the Gulf of Aden along it’s southern coastline. Across the way is the Horn of Africa and Somalia but more importantly is the major global shipping lane Yemen borders so from a commercial/economic interest, this area in strategic purposes in very important and especially not only to the US but Europe as well. However, what would you say if President Obama came on TV and announced the US military will open a new military front in Yemen to defend Saudi Arabia’s border interests and Yemen Sunni gov’t interests? I’m guessing you and I would at least agree in this case that the lives of our men and women in uniform is way more valuable than that and not only no but hell no! If President Obama again came on TV but this time said that we are going into Yemen to make sure the commercial shipping lanes in the Gulf of Aden are secure, there might not be that much objection at least from the typical conservative crowd but it’d still be a tough sell especially to some segments of the democratic base although that base hasn’t objected to much when Obama has worn Bush’s big hat and 6 guns for effect so there you go. But the one thing that is the trump card is Al Qaeda. Conservatives think Al Qaeda is the asteroid of Armageddon fame while liberals fear Al Qaeda but they fear even more of not looking hawkish to the independent vote when the spin turns it that way. So now we need an Al Qaeda connection. All it takes if for a Saudi, Yemen operative to cull out the patsy and lay the groundwork and here we are. Imagine even further this past Sunday night when I watched 60 Minutes to see the Base Jumpers who use the wingsuits (that’s so cool) and I watch a CIA piece on the Afghan fight against Al Qaeda. You know, that place with only a handful at best still in country! How do I know it was a CIA story? The lead figure was a CIA operative and his Afghani counterpart but more so, in the story all the pictures were supplied by the CIA in an open admission in the story itself. [/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]I[/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]t was a very favorable piece to the CIA and the whole effort over there. Justified or not. Dumb luck and just lucky timing? In and of itself, I’d totally agree but considering everything else taking place, it’s just too convenient for me and like the months notice the gov’t and CIA had on Mutallab, they had months to prepare this puff piece. And if you think that William Paley’s CBS and the CIA along with numerous other media outlets haven’t [/FONT][/COLOR][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]w[/FONT][/SIZE][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]orked hand and hand before, then Carl Bernstein in 1977’ would surely say to think again. [B][URL='http://danwismar.com/uploads/Bernstein%20-%20CIA%20and%20Media.htm'][U][COLOR=#800080]http://danwismar.com/uploads/Bernstein%20-%20CIA%20and%20Media.htm[/COLOR][/U][/URL] [/B][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]OK, he’s admitted to being Al Qaeda so that proves it. I’ll stipulate that in his mind he may think he’s Al Qaeda but 2 things to consider. It is possible to have pulled him in to something he thinks is Al Qaeda when in fact it is something of a different sort. Our gov’t both foreign and domestic actions have run cover ops before for various purposes and it’s possible this is no different. That aside, Al Qaeda (AQAP) has claimed responsibility that that settles it. I’d tend to agree but there is also more here as well. What is the source that AQAP is claiming responsibility for the Rubber bomber? Let’s look at some stories for a common source. Here’s a BBC story [URL='http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8433151.stm'][U][COLOR=#800080][B]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8433151.stm[/B][/COLOR][/U][/URL][B] and notice [/B]to the immediate right a picture of Mutallab with the bi-line IntelCenter. Down in the text of the story, it quotes IntelCenter pointing to AQAP in the attack. But is there more? How about Examiner.com and look at the phote and text at right. Again, IntelCenter is the source. What about MSN.com? and read the 2nd paragraph. IntelCenter again. Let’s consider a foreign news source like Taipai Times [URL='http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2009/12/30/2003462153'][U][COLOR=#800080][B]http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2009/12/30/2003462153[/B][/COLOR][/U][/URL] and even here IntelCenter is a source. Well just who is IntelCenter? Here’s Ben Venzke CEO of IntelCenter at their website.[URL='http://www.intelcenter.com/aboutus.html'][U][COLOR=#800080][B]http://www.intelcenter.com/aboutus.html[/B][/COLOR][/U][/URL]Also here’s a wiki piece on IntelCenter also[U] [COLOR=#800080][B][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IntelCenter[/URL][/B][/COLOR][/U] Now because IntelCenter is a private company does or doesn’t mean a thing but it is fair to ask whose interest do they really serve? Would they tell a different story from those who hire them if the facts said such a thing? Can’t prove one way or the other but would it not also be wise on our parts to look for other independent sources to further confirm what IntelCenter is saying? Looking across the web at similar new stories, IntelCenter seems to have an almost exclusive monopoly on this one so in light of this fact alone, I’m not willing to agree the sky is falling just yet. Way to many other factors in the mix for me. Now you can call me wacky, you can say I’m looking at wacky news sources, etc. but the simple fact is the Mainstreet media sold out over the last 10 years, they sold out during Clinton, they sold out during Reagan and as Bernstein only hit the tip of the iceberg, they’ve been sold out all along.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]So go ahead and claim the sky is falling but I’m sitting this one out with a damn big grain of salt. If gov’t lied about healthcare, lied about the economic bailout, lied about global warming, lied about this and that, why then do they all of a sudden tell the truth now on this? A liar is a liar is a liar is a liar![/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]The End![/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]And all God's People said[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]AMEN![/COLOR] :happy-very: [/QUOTE]
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