POTUS gives SOTU

moreluck

moreluck

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The reason there's no bounce is he can talk like Reagan, but there are no actions. Per: Couric, amanpour, matthews and all those guys they say his speech was Reaganesque. Maybe people should hear what all of those guys had to say about Reagan way back when. Of the 3, there's not an original thought among them!!
 
bbsam

bbsam

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Staff member
Maybe we need to check the polls two years into Reagan's first term. That would be more "apples to apples", no?
 
wkmac

wkmac

Well-Known Member
bbsam said:
Maybe we need to check the polls two years into Reagan's first term. That would be more "apples to apples", no?
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Funny you mention that. I got curious yesterday about the very subject and one thing I learned was that post speech polling did not start until 1978' but here are the numbers and Obama's latest numbers are fairly normal looking at the big scheme of things. Nothing to put down and nothing to launch a celebration over either. Seems if you like and voted Obama, it's a good speech and if you don't like Obama, it was a bad speech not unlike the Steeler or Packer fans going into Sunday's SuperBowl game. Funny how that is!
 
wkmac

wkmac

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Obama's Big Corporatist Plans

Obama’s program is nothing more than a stepped-up corporatism, draped – as it so often is – in rah-rah red-white-and-blue, all the better to keep the public from looking too closely. If the people can be distracted by patriotic fanfare — cheerleader chants about being No. 1 — jingoist can-do-ism — maybe they won’t notice that the program is merely an updated state capitalism in which the government combines with well-connected business executives and anointed union leaders to manage the economy in hopes of preventing the crisis that could call into question the very legitimacy of statism. It’s a tall order considering the mess the economic managers have created.
Tuesday night Obama delivered a message punctuated with an aggressive nationalism that insults the spirit of cosmopolitan free-market liberalism:
“We need to out-innovate, out-educate, and out-build the rest of the world,” he said.
How repulsive! The liberal vision isn’t a zero-sum Olympic rivalry among nation-states, with governments alternately cajoling and cudgeling their populations to perform. It’s a positive-sum world where individuals, not countries, compete and cooperate in pursuit of their well-being within a division of labor and harmony of interests, unobstructed by governments and their sanctioned monopolies — and oblivious of political boundaries.
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Babagounj

Babagounj

Strength through joy
seems someone has an identity issue here; first he was the next JFK, then the new clinton , then the new carter, now he wants to be seen as Reagan.
As usual he is nothing but a conman ; unable to keep his stories straight.
 
brownmonster

brownmonster

Man of Great Wisdom
Going back through this old thread is classic. Exact reverse of the recent SOTU. Moreluck complained about someone ripping Michelle Bachmans makeup instead of listening to content and 8 years later rips Stacey Abrams for being fat.
 

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