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<blockquote data-quote="Bubblehead" data-source="post: 3456413" data-attributes="member: 14176"><p>But it's Teamster negotiated contracts that have went nothing but backwards in relation to part time employees at UPS, in regards to both wages and benefits for the last 3 or 4 decades???</p><p></p><p>....first with the creation of a 2 tier wage scale, then with little to no change in starting wages from that point forward, and the erosion of benefits and advancement conditions.</p><p></p><p>Coincidentally part timers make up the majority of employees, but now instead of college students comprising the lions share, it's single parents, small business people, senior citizens, and indigent leftover marketplace castoffs filling these positions.</p><p>We were there for the money and promise of a full time driving job, now they are are here for the benefits only.</p><p></p><p>When I was hired part time by UPS at age 20 in 1986, for $8/hr and full benefits after 30 days, minimum wage was $3.35/hr and benefits only were found for full time jobs.</p><p></p><p>It's simply too convenient, and grossly unfair, to slough off the woes of UPS part timers on "changing times, business, and or people".</p><p>We aren't buying that crap anymore.</p><p></p><p>Again, unless you are 86 years old (or more), those leather and denim claddened fellas who look like they just stepped out of a gay bar, aren't from your decade???</p><p></p><p>....but for the sake of discussion, let's pretend they are.</p><p></p><p>Those 50's guys were met with the same disdain from their elders, as you have for those pictured from 2018....so I'm not sure what your point is???</p><p></p><p>Every generation tends to think the one that follows their's is deficient.</p><p>Why are we to think somehow that assertion skipped your generation??</p><p></p><p>I do not, to my knowledge???</p><p></p><p>....nor are they "hillhopping", "draft dodging flower children", or part of a "hip drug culture", nor are they partaking in "free love", huffing PAM cooking spray, etc.</p><p></p><p>Maybe you "BigUnionGuys" should spend more time looking at how you can elevate your past shortcomings, rather than passing them off on subsequent, unwitting generations?</p><p></p><p>That slight of hand has missed it's mark, again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bubblehead, post: 3456413, member: 14176"] But it's Teamster negotiated contracts that have went nothing but backwards in relation to part time employees at UPS, in regards to both wages and benefits for the last 3 or 4 decades??? ....first with the creation of a 2 tier wage scale, then with little to no change in starting wages from that point forward, and the erosion of benefits and advancement conditions. Coincidentally part timers make up the majority of employees, but now instead of college students comprising the lions share, it's single parents, small business people, senior citizens, and indigent leftover marketplace castoffs filling these positions. We were there for the money and promise of a full time driving job, now they are are here for the benefits only. When I was hired part time by UPS at age 20 in 1986, for $8/hr and full benefits after 30 days, minimum wage was $3.35/hr and benefits only were found for full time jobs. It's simply too convenient, and grossly unfair, to slough off the woes of UPS part timers on "changing times, business, and or people". We aren't buying that crap anymore. Again, unless you are 86 years old (or more), those leather and denim claddened fellas who look like they just stepped out of a gay bar, aren't from your decade??? ....but for the sake of discussion, let's pretend they are. Those 50's guys were met with the same disdain from their elders, as you have for those pictured from 2018....so I'm not sure what your point is??? Every generation tends to think the one that follows their's is deficient. Why are we to think somehow that assertion skipped your generation?? I do not, to my knowledge??? ....nor are they "hillhopping", "draft dodging flower children", or part of a "hip drug culture", nor are they partaking in "free love", huffing PAM cooking spray, etc. Maybe you "BigUnionGuys" should spend more time looking at how you can elevate your past shortcomings, rather than passing them off on subsequent, unwitting generations? That slight of hand has missed it's mark, again. [/QUOTE]
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