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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 51773"><p>"Isn't that what invading armies do? Disarm the conquered?"</p><p></p><p>"Your understanding of history leaves a bit to be desired. Try to get your information from a real history book, instead of an NRA distilled version of history."</p><p></p><p>Boy you sure can flip flop on issues. First you say I cant know what I am talking about and state that what I say comes from a skewed history book, and then you say what they hell, that is what armies do all the time?</p><p></p><p>Susie, pick a side, believe in that side and sick with it. </p><p> </p><p>FWIW: </p><p>Holocaust victims: </p><p>* 5.16.0 million Jews, including 3.03.5 </p><p>million Polish Jews </p><p>* 2.53.5 million Gentile Poles </p><p>* 200,000800,000 Roma &amp; Sinti </p><p>* 200,000300,000 people with disabilities </p><p>* 10,00025,000 gay men </p><p>* 2,000 Jehovah's Witnesses </p><p>(from Wikipedia) </p><p></p><p>Well interesting enough, each history book, each blankety-pedia's, have their own numbers that were entered. Bottom line is that no one knows. Each one of your numbers are just guesses, some with a range of 4 times. So they just dont know. All they can do is give you their best guess. And they dont mention anything about the Russian people do they? The thousands upon thousands of Russians that they referred to as underpeople.</p><p></p><p>"Also, most of the records from Allied POW camps were apparently destroyed in the late 1940's. There are varying views on how many German POWs died in Allied camps."</p><p></p><p>Really? How convenient. A military that has many documents that deal with the American Revolution over 200 years ago, but yet looses some the records on the largest military campaign ever within 5 years of the war? I wonder how that would/could ever happen. </p><p></p><p>Further more; your reference to POW camps is interesting. POW camps fall under the Geneva Convention and are inspected for the mistreatment of POWs. But the vast majorities were confined in DEF camps instead. That placed them in a no mans land without any rights or supervision of any type by any authority. Many of these camps had no buildings for the people held inside to use as shelter. The only water that was available was from the latrine that was uphill from where they were stored. It was so bad that the British and French Governments even complained formally.</p><p></p><p>Try 950,000 to 2.5 million in three years. And for some reason many of them the old, women and children. People that were not combatants. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Certainly many died, and some were mistreated. Same thing happens today."</p><p></p><p>I guess that falls under your heading as <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> happens? </p><p></p><p>So where are we holding millions of Pows today? And show me where there are thousands dieing every day in our POW camps.</p><p></p><p>Get real!</p><p></p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 51773"] "Isn't that what invading armies do? Disarm the conquered?" "Your understanding of history leaves a bit to be desired. Try to get your information from a real history book, instead of an NRA distilled version of history." Boy you sure can flip flop on issues. First you say I cant know what I am talking about and state that what I say comes from a skewed history book, and then you say what they hell, that is what armies do all the time? Susie, pick a side, believe in that side and sick with it. FWIW: Holocaust victims: * 5.16.0 million Jews, including 3.03.5 million Polish Jews * 2.53.5 million Gentile Poles * 200,000800,000 Roma & Sinti * 200,000300,000 people with disabilities * 10,00025,000 gay men * 2,000 Jehovah's Witnesses (from Wikipedia) Well interesting enough, each history book, each blankety-pedia's, have their own numbers that were entered. Bottom line is that no one knows. Each one of your numbers are just guesses, some with a range of 4 times. So they just dont know. All they can do is give you their best guess. And they dont mention anything about the Russian people do they? The thousands upon thousands of Russians that they referred to as underpeople. "Also, most of the records from Allied POW camps were apparently destroyed in the late 1940's. There are varying views on how many German POWs died in Allied camps." Really? How convenient. A military that has many documents that deal with the American Revolution over 200 years ago, but yet looses some the records on the largest military campaign ever within 5 years of the war? I wonder how that would/could ever happen. Further more; your reference to POW camps is interesting. POW camps fall under the Geneva Convention and are inspected for the mistreatment of POWs. But the vast majorities were confined in DEF camps instead. That placed them in a no mans land without any rights or supervision of any type by any authority. Many of these camps had no buildings for the people held inside to use as shelter. The only water that was available was from the latrine that was uphill from where they were stored. It was so bad that the British and French Governments even complained formally. Try 950,000 to 2.5 million in three years. And for some reason many of them the old, women and children. People that were not combatants. Certainly many died, and some were mistreated. Same thing happens today." I guess that falls under your heading as :censored: happens? So where are we holding millions of Pows today? And show me where there are thousands dieing every day in our POW camps. Get real! d [/QUOTE]
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