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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 71526" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p><strong>I said it DBoy</strong></p><p></p><p>Dannyboy,</p><p></p><p>The point didn't hinge on gun ownership or even the right to own and posess firearms. The real point of the whole example was this. Do you believe you are better able to regulate yourself and assure your friends and neighbors that you are responsible or do you believe gov't is better and in fact should be that regulatory body? Don't worry Danny as what I purposed would never happen because we all are too collectivist oriented these days for such stupid libertarian idealism but the point is we either regulate ourselves or the gov't will do it for us at the overblown emotionalism of folks like Suzi. You think about that for a moment. I'd rather regulate myself than have someone else do it for me. That was my real point.</p><p></p><p>Oh and one other thing, you and I will lose our guns before this thing is over and you can take that to the bank. Read some of the international treaties our fine US Senate has ratified and will ratify in the future that also require certain laws to be codified into the law and it's all a matter of time. Oh, and they will remove them from your cold dead fingers if you are mentality inclined to think that way! Guns are on the way out and will go the way of the bow and arrow and sword as means of defense. Here's a piece of advice, watch and learn about sound and energy technolgy. Remember this word. Scalar. Even makes nuclear meaningless as a weapon. I've added this link for a small taste of the issue.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.livescience.com/technology/ap_050713_phasers.html" target="_blank">http://www.livescience.com/technology/ap_050713_phasers.html</a></p><p></p><p>I know those 200 plus year old documents don't mean a thing anymore but Federalist #29 written by Hamilton is a worth while read on the issue of militia and guns. Kinda interesting what Big Al has to say about the ability of the Federal gov't to raise and maintain a standing army 200 plus years ago as our young nation was debating the ratification of it's new but not yet excepted Constitution. Sounds to me like if he were alive today he just might be out there protesting the means and waging of war this country is currently engaged in. How interesting!</p><p></p><p><a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/home/histdox/fed_29.html" target="_blank">http://thomas.loc.gov/home/histdox/fed_29.html</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 71526, member: 2189"] [b]I said it DBoy[/b] Dannyboy, The point didn't hinge on gun ownership or even the right to own and posess firearms. The real point of the whole example was this. Do you believe you are better able to regulate yourself and assure your friends and neighbors that you are responsible or do you believe gov't is better and in fact should be that regulatory body? Don't worry Danny as what I purposed would never happen because we all are too collectivist oriented these days for such stupid libertarian idealism but the point is we either regulate ourselves or the gov't will do it for us at the overblown emotionalism of folks like Suzi. You think about that for a moment. I'd rather regulate myself than have someone else do it for me. That was my real point. Oh and one other thing, you and I will lose our guns before this thing is over and you can take that to the bank. Read some of the international treaties our fine US Senate has ratified and will ratify in the future that also require certain laws to be codified into the law and it's all a matter of time. Oh, and they will remove them from your cold dead fingers if you are mentality inclined to think that way! Guns are on the way out and will go the way of the bow and arrow and sword as means of defense. Here's a piece of advice, watch and learn about sound and energy technolgy. Remember this word. Scalar. Even makes nuclear meaningless as a weapon. I've added this link for a small taste of the issue. [url]http://www.livescience.com/technology/ap_050713_phasers.html[/url] I know those 200 plus year old documents don't mean a thing anymore but Federalist #29 written by Hamilton is a worth while read on the issue of militia and guns. Kinda interesting what Big Al has to say about the ability of the Federal gov't to raise and maintain a standing army 200 plus years ago as our young nation was debating the ratification of it's new but not yet excepted Constitution. Sounds to me like if he were alive today he just might be out there protesting the means and waging of war this country is currently engaged in. How interesting! [url]http://thomas.loc.gov/home/histdox/fed_29.html[/url] [/QUOTE]
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