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<blockquote data-quote="GIBBY14" data-source="post: 99890" data-attributes="member: 5610"><p><span style="color: black">Oh and just to reassure that I'm not making threats to harm anyone or anything with a "gun" </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">I never said I would do anything </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">I never said anyone else was involved </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">Nice to know how many of you think though</span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">Michigan is where Kettering is but I’m not there......Good call Sherlock</span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">I did however say the numerical value of 45/100 or 9/20 or 1/20/9 or 45% </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">Did you know that 45% of all money made over a lifetime goes to the GOVERNMENT? Hence the term "45 take care of it"="tax dollars"</span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">But who am I to tell the police the DA office? please people we live in a world now that does not promote whites because white CEOs said hey we need more color for more crap to put on quarterly reports, because we are publicly owned. </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">Final thought for the night!</span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">This is a forum much like unitedpackagesmashers.com and websites like this are for people to be able to vent, voice their concerns and feelings about items. I have every right to say whatever I please. </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">And for all the old school UPS drivers. UMMM. read more about the company it might help you just a little SCS and Prof Services, "what can brown do for you?" is because the company is moving away from making most of there money by moving boxes and doing it with educated degreed management personnel. UPS charges 260 an hour for PS consulting = 26 an hour x 10 what they make in an hour for the company you work all day for. Next the economics of the US is showing that unions are the reason why companies do poorly. GM. FORD. So go on strike! </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">Finally, drivers have no power now everyday UPS higher new employees wanting to be drivers. But they have to wait until a bid sheet is posted, and they have the seniority over all others. Did you start at the company making 8.50 an hour busting you but in your own clothes for 5 years before you name was called to go driving? I see 18 kids just scraping by on 17.5 hours a week at 8.50 an hour to provide for themselves. Tell me they wouldn't sell out to during a strike to go driving at $12 an hour 40 hours a week. Too many senior drivers think that all the part time union people care? All they want to do is drive or get promoted to get by. Drivers in general are rude to part time people anyways! They would sell out so quickly. Did anyone notice the lack of pt hourly involved in the last contract? Look at it this way new highers are freshman on a football team drivers are the seniors, ok so if the seniors don’t teach the freshman how to be a "brotherhood" then when they get to be seniors tradition is lost! </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">So tomorrow when you leave the center or hub ask a pt hourly if they would sell you out for your pay?</span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">This original post was to see if other people where being profiled at work for positions? </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">This also happens to drivers. EX PT sup female wants to become a driver really bad, so she talks to the center manager, six months after being hired she is on the road????? Why??? She is female and ups needs diversity! So check in to that one somehow that breaks a couple of union contract standards! No bid sheet, not union, and no seniority over the hourly employees she supervised? </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">So go on strike get fired be laid off. When a company fails the first to go are union anyways. Then management. But if I go I have a resume! Unlike some who would read...?</span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">...</span></p><p><span style="color: black">UPS DRIVER 15 years </span></p><p><span style="color: black">Pay 50k </span></p><p><span style="color: black">...</span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">Great you hired now go drive the school bus!</span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">If the union was as concerned with the GOOD of the company as they are their money donors. Then UPS could have a higher stock value then fed ex and a larger share of air / international volume. So think about that when talks start this year. You want another big raise but if the company tanks (like GM so it is possible) it’s not your fault you were looking out for the "brotherhood".....Good PLAN. No driver deserves more money than a PE mechanic or Auto mechanic. They actually have to have a brain to do there job! </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">Please justify to me your pay? </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">Unions started in the 1920's due to poor wages, unsafe working conditions, and forced labor. </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">1. Poor wage was resolved with US setting the minimum wage....check</span></p><p><span style="color: black">2. OSHA (or a form of govt regulation early stages of FDA in Chicago meat packing plants) for work place safety ......check</span></p><p><span style="color: black">3. US ruled that 40 hours is a standard work week 32 to be considered full time and 8 hours a day to be standard work day length with in most professions</span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">Since then unions have turned to money, benefit, and vacation hungry vampires! Learn your roots of what the first fought for and be happy with yourself making 20 an hour more than min wage. If you really wanted there to be more fulltime union positions so others could make what you do ......clue take a pay cut and UPS will hire more. say 15 an hour that would result in enough money to double the ups staffing for union employees, drivers article 23 porters carwash mechanics all of them </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">What right does a non educated person have to complain about 26 an hour? </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">PhD students get 1500 a semester to teach as TAs while in school and they are the people who create new endeavors of study. YES I SAID CREATE. THAT is what a PhD means. No one should be paid more than these kids.</span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">When you were a kid did you say to your mommy? </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">“I want to be a UPS driver" </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">Hell no! You got lucky with a good paying job that did not require an education, then got greedy and wanted more! </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black">Some of us aspire to our dream job not the one that pays me well and has a union to back me up if I screw up!</span></p><p><span style="color: black"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GIBBY14, post: 99890, member: 5610"] [COLOR=black]Oh and just to reassure that I'm not making threats to harm anyone or anything with a "gun" I never said I would do anything I never said anyone else was involved Nice to know how many of you think though Michigan is where Kettering is but I’m not there......Good call Sherlock I did however say the numerical value of 45/100 or 9/20 or 1/20/9 or 45% Did you know that 45% of all money made over a lifetime goes to the GOVERNMENT? Hence the term "45 take care of it"="tax dollars" But who am I to tell the police the DA office? please people we live in a world now that does not promote whites because white CEOs said hey we need more color for more crap to put on quarterly reports, because we are publicly owned. Final thought for the night! This is a forum much like unitedpackagesmashers.com and websites like this are for people to be able to vent, voice their concerns and feelings about items. I have every right to say whatever I please. And for all the old school UPS drivers. UMMM. read more about the company it might help you just a little SCS and Prof Services, "what can brown do for you?" is because the company is moving away from making most of there money by moving boxes and doing it with educated degreed management personnel. UPS charges 260 an hour for PS consulting = 26 an hour x 10 what they make in an hour for the company you work all day for. Next the economics of the US is showing that unions are the reason why companies do poorly. GM. FORD. So go on strike! Finally, drivers have no power now everyday UPS higher new employees wanting to be drivers. But they have to wait until a bid sheet is posted, and they have the seniority over all others. Did you start at the company making 8.50 an hour busting you but in your own clothes for 5 years before you name was called to go driving? I see 18 kids just scraping by on 17.5 hours a week at 8.50 an hour to provide for themselves. Tell me they wouldn't sell out to during a strike to go driving at $12 an hour 40 hours a week. Too many senior drivers think that all the part time union people care? All they want to do is drive or get promoted to get by. Drivers in general are rude to part time people anyways! They would sell out so quickly. Did anyone notice the lack of pt hourly involved in the last contract? Look at it this way new highers are freshman on a football team drivers are the seniors, ok so if the seniors don’t teach the freshman how to be a "brotherhood" then when they get to be seniors tradition is lost! So tomorrow when you leave the center or hub ask a pt hourly if they would sell you out for your pay? This original post was to see if other people where being profiled at work for positions? This also happens to drivers. EX PT sup female wants to become a driver really bad, so she talks to the center manager, six months after being hired she is on the road????? Why??? She is female and ups needs diversity! So check in to that one somehow that breaks a couple of union contract standards! No bid sheet, not union, and no seniority over the hourly employees she supervised? So go on strike get fired be laid off. When a company fails the first to go are union anyways. Then management. But if I go I have a resume! Unlike some who would read...? ... UPS DRIVER 15 years Pay 50k ... Great you hired now go drive the school bus! If the union was as concerned with the GOOD of the company as they are their money donors. Then UPS could have a higher stock value then fed ex and a larger share of air / international volume. So think about that when talks start this year. You want another big raise but if the company tanks (like GM so it is possible) it’s not your fault you were looking out for the "brotherhood".....Good PLAN. No driver deserves more money than a PE mechanic or Auto mechanic. They actually have to have a brain to do there job! Please justify to me your pay? Unions started in the 1920's due to poor wages, unsafe working conditions, and forced labor. 1. Poor wage was resolved with US setting the minimum wage....check 2. OSHA (or a form of govt regulation early stages of FDA in Chicago meat packing plants) for work place safety ......check 3. US ruled that 40 hours is a standard work week 32 to be considered full time and 8 hours a day to be standard work day length with in most professions Since then unions have turned to money, benefit, and vacation hungry vampires! Learn your roots of what the first fought for and be happy with yourself making 20 an hour more than min wage. If you really wanted there to be more fulltime union positions so others could make what you do ......clue take a pay cut and UPS will hire more. say 15 an hour that would result in enough money to double the ups staffing for union employees, drivers article 23 porters carwash mechanics all of them What right does a non educated person have to complain about 26 an hour? PhD students get 1500 a semester to teach as TAs while in school and they are the people who create new endeavors of study. YES I SAID CREATE. THAT is what a PhD means. No one should be paid more than these kids. When you were a kid did you say to your mommy? “I want to be a UPS driver" Hell no! You got lucky with a good paying job that did not require an education, then got greedy and wanted more! Some of us aspire to our dream job not the one that pays me well and has a union to back me up if I screw up! [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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