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<blockquote data-quote="brownIEman" data-source="post: 3156751" data-attributes="member: 14596"><p>OK. first your part in bold - displace employees that want to drive seasonally? I honestly don't know what that means. You can't mean drivers, because drivers will all be driving during peak and are not seasonal. Do you mean insiders? That makes no sense because you cannot have the insiders working as seasonal drivers because you need them to run the inside operations. Also you are completely missing the obvious point that if they are hired by the company under the terms of the bargaining agreement, they are by definition bargaining unit employees, so you are claiming that bargaining unit employees will be displacing bargaining unit employees. Or you're saying temporary bargaining unit employees are displacing inside employees who want to be peak drivers but can't (except in very limited circumstances and with limited hours), and never have been, because they are needed inside? </p><p>You do bring up a good point though - could an insider who fits the bill for this position as far as car, insurance, DOT etc. double shift part time as a PVD like they can as a jumper? As long as the hours fit and they did not violate the ICC hours rules I don't see why not?</p><p></p><p>Second part - Get over myself. Solid advice. Check. I am officially over myself. I am neither lying, looking for anyone to feel sorry for me (I left UPS 2 peaks ago and have a much better gig now) nor am I "lashing out". I am merely engaging in conversation and debate regarding this interesting new seasonal tool UPS is trying this year, and I disagree with your point of view about it. Tell me, do you often feel that people who challenge your point of view are "lashing out"? That is probably not healthy. (and I am perfectly willing to admit that my engaging in debate about UPS operations 2 years after leaving said UPS operations, is far from healthy on my part, but that is my particular cross to bear)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brownIEman, post: 3156751, member: 14596"] OK. first your part in bold - displace employees that want to drive seasonally? I honestly don't know what that means. You can't mean drivers, because drivers will all be driving during peak and are not seasonal. Do you mean insiders? That makes no sense because you cannot have the insiders working as seasonal drivers because you need them to run the inside operations. Also you are completely missing the obvious point that if they are hired by the company under the terms of the bargaining agreement, they are by definition bargaining unit employees, so you are claiming that bargaining unit employees will be displacing bargaining unit employees. Or you're saying temporary bargaining unit employees are displacing inside employees who want to be peak drivers but can't (except in very limited circumstances and with limited hours), and never have been, because they are needed inside? You do bring up a good point though - could an insider who fits the bill for this position as far as car, insurance, DOT etc. double shift part time as a PVD like they can as a jumper? As long as the hours fit and they did not violate the ICC hours rules I don't see why not? Second part - Get over myself. Solid advice. Check. I am officially over myself. I am neither lying, looking for anyone to feel sorry for me (I left UPS 2 peaks ago and have a much better gig now) nor am I "lashing out". I am merely engaging in conversation and debate regarding this interesting new seasonal tool UPS is trying this year, and I disagree with your point of view about it. Tell me, do you often feel that people who challenge your point of view are "lashing out"? That is probably not healthy. (and I am perfectly willing to admit that my engaging in debate about UPS operations 2 years after leaving said UPS operations, is far from healthy on my part, but that is my particular cross to bear) [/QUOTE]
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